Ok So

ok so

beyond being gross and weird I think there’s something to be said about the lack of literary analysis in proshipping (this post is about mp100 in particular but this can apply elsewhere)

there’s two points I’m getting at here: lack of understanding of the characters being interpreted, and intent of author

first of all, the common rebuttal to “he would not fucking say that” is “it’s just fiction and for fun” (which is just a really common rebuttal for everything but that’s beside my point). But that point lacks acknowledgement that their interpretation isn’t based on the source material. For example: Reigen, the guy who notoriously stood up against a terrorist organization to keep kids from being in danger, being interpreted as a pedophile (there’s no soft way to put it). It’s going directly against what is set up in a (in my opinion) disrespectful way. Also there’s a point to be made about trampling over platonic relationships for the sake of shipping and how that applies to proship but i digress!

There are methods to have characters act in ways they would not normally. In fact, most of my favorite fics across all of my fandoms do this!! What they all have in common is an understanding of that character that explains what pushed them to the point of deconstructing their own morals and values. “Wouldn’t it be fucked up if this happened?” works so much better when you can see how it led to that point. And even then I’d venture to say there are some lines that shouldn’t be crossed, knowing these characters do in fact belong to the author, but me drawing lines in the sand isn’t going to be accurate to everyone’s view. It’s always going to be a nuanced topic!

Second of all is the importance of authors intent when reading. Rather than applying this to the base media, however, I’m pivoting focus onto those creating proship content. What is their intent while writing? Through unfortunate exposure in Multiple fandoms I see these common reasons: fluffy content with or without acknowledging the ship being (for lack of a better word. i wish i knew a better one) problematic, dark content such as gore or rape, or (there’s no way to put this lightly) jackoff material. Keep in mind these are generalizations, but im also not giving some of these people the time of day to add defenses.

The “fluffy” content I can sometimes see as the author of the content not understanding the consequence of the ship itself (incest and pedophilia bad) due to a multitude of factors, and I genuinely do think there are learning experiences for them in non negative or aggressive ways. Dark content I can make a case that this is a form of self harm whether intentional or unintentional, however for some this gets looped into the last category. Finally, it’s pretty obvious some people just yank their shit to incest and pedophilia and I REALLY don’t think I need to explain why that’s bad. Point is, it’s important to consider proshippers intent, and how it’s more complex than just gross people who are intentionally malicious. I think there’s learning experiences here for every proshipper, however those who refuse to acknowledge that their actions have consequences (entirely different post to make there about how proshipping can in fact have real life repercussions) I hold a special vendetta against.

To conclude I’ll say I’m not someone who calls myself an “Anti”. Do I hate proshipping? Yes, absolutely I do. But I also enjoy fiction with darker topics that are handled in a critical manner!! Think Oyasumi Punpun. Good manga btw, absolutely horrifying though. I don’t think dark subjects should be kept out of fiction but I do think they should be handled with care.

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9 months ago
A Little Bit Crazy

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1 month ago

So I've been meaning to comment on this for a long while, but I haven't for whatever reason. Does anyone else find the Bakugo and Todoroki friendship absolutely forced and fake? Because Bakugo is way too much like Endeavor, especiallyin the beginning. If anything, I find it way more likely that Todoroki would be triggered by someone like Bakugo since he acts and behaves so much like Endeavor. And please don't come at me with that whole "Bakugo has changed and grown" crap. That apology he gave in season 6 was manipulative at best! It was a bunch of excuses, and the fact that he ended it with that whole "this doesn't change anything" just made me hate him more, if anything. But yeah, I just find the whole Todoroki Bakugo friendship wrong. Especially since Todoroki is so close with Midoriya, and he grew up in an abusive home. He may have been sheltered, but I doubt he'd be able to ignore the red flags in Bakugo and Midoriya's relationship, especially after the sports festival.

5 months ago
Meme I Found On Reddit That Quite Accurately Describes How Certain Parts Of The Fandom Are Taking The

Meme I found on reddit that quite accurately describes how certain parts of the fandom are taking the extra chapter…

1 year ago

How did spinel react when Steven decided to give himself up to Homeworld and went with aquamarine and topaz?

She did not see it as a self-sacrifice, she saw it as a mistake on her part for not getting rid of the problem soon enough. Let's just say there was alot of intense emotions going on when it happened and none of them were close to positive until Steven miraculously came back.

How Did Spinel React When Steven Decided To Give Himself Up To Homeworld And Went With Aquamarine And

This is Spinel when she was somewhere in the triangle of anger, denial and bargaining during the period where Steven was gone.

5 months ago

Sorry for not being on in, like, forever. Life’s just gotten in the way.

Anyways, that’s not what I wanted to talk about today. What I really wanted to focus on is something I’ve been thinking a lot on lately, and that’s the idea of asshole characters.

Obviously asshole characters come in all shapes and sizes. Each have their own motivations for being an asshole and/or unfriendly individual. Katsuki, Shota, and Hitoshi are asshole characters themselves, but why is it that I dislike them so much?

At first I thought I didn’t like asshole characters in general. However, I then remembered that there are several characters people would classify as assholes/unfriendly individuals that are characters I adore. Lysithea from Fire Emblem 2 Houses and Natsuki from Doki Doki Literature Club are characters who are rough around the edges and aren’t nice to people immediately. The reasons behind their behavior aren’t too far off from why Shota and Hitoshi act the way they do, that being trauma, so why am I able to look past their behavior and not that of Shota and Hitoshi? With Katsuki, it’s obvious, but the other two had me scratching my head for a bit.

The answer, outside of the fact that Lysithea and Natsuki are multi-layered characters written far better than Shota and Hitoshi, is that the girls are REACTIVE assholes while Hitoshi and Shota are ACTIVE assholes.

What do I mean by that? Well both Lysithea and Natsuki for the most part keep to themselves. Something that someone does ends up causing them to snap. For Lysithea, it’s when she feels that her time is being wasted after someone approaches her about something irrelevant. For Natsuki, it’s a defensive mechanism triggered by a perceived attack on her character. Now, is that an excuse for their behavior? No. There are better ways to defend yourself and to get people to stop talking to you, but it’s at least understandable that they’d snap due to their traumas.

Katsuki, Hitoshi, and Shota aren’t like that. When they’re an asshole, it isn’t because they’re provoked into being one by someone else’s actions, but because they’re the ones doing the provoking. Katsuki’s rude and aggressive to everyone around him, choosing to make the life of another boy absolutely miserable without any provocation. Hitoshi decides to mock 1-A and issue his “challenge” not because anyone approached him, but because he himself is looking for trouble. Yeah, Katsuki gave off a shitty first impression, but Hitoshi already was planning on challenging 1-A from the beginning. Shota’s the one who controls his teaching style and is a position of authority. Rather than do his job, he’d rather tear someone down.

Am I supposed to sympathize with these so-called heroes? I for the life of me can’t seem to do so. Meanwhile, with characters like Lysithea and Natsuki, I can because they don’t mean to be an asshole, it’s just that they want to be left alone.

Now, am I saying reactive assholes are better characters than proactive assholes? No. Proactive assholes can have great character development. The problem is that proactive assholes are tougher to warm up to, especially when they’re meant to characters the audience is meant to root for. MHA’s writing does nothing TO make people want to root for these guys. They’re just assholes who wanna throw their weight around and never receive punishment for it/are called out for it. Hell, MHA seems to think these characters ARE in the right for being the way they are and/or doesn’t take the fact that they are assholes seriously (looking at you Katsuki).

Anyways, I thought I’d write this up to really explain more of my thought process and why Katsuki, Hitoshi, and Shota bother me so much whereas I find myself adoring characters such as Lysithea and Natsuki.

3 months ago

Hi,not sure if I ever mentioned this but...not a fan how Monoma acts towards A1. Why? Bc I don't get it.

In my fics I tend to make B1 be seen as the lesser one to justify the animosity Monoma feels.

But canon...B1 is not looked down, I think maybe that is general eds.

"he hates A1 bc of bk" it's a justification I saw and could have worked but he also ...calls Izu arrogant, Izu the boy who clearly thinks he is worthless...is arrogant.

Why Monoma even has a beef with A1 in the first place? Just to be a mouthpiece for BK? Maybe but why take out on the others? Too many questions and no answer since Hori admits he created Monoma thinking on an annoying person he met and he doesn't like Monoma (bold claim here Hori) my point is...I don't think it makes sense Monoma have a issue with the students of A1.

If he was beffing with Aizawa and BK only. Yes, that would make sense.

But the rest? No. And I say this as a person who detest A1 now.

I don't care either way because Monoma is only mildly antagonistic so it isn't a huge deal for me, but I'll attempt to explain some of his behavior:

1A does nothing to call Bakugou out. They allow, and even enable in some cases, his behavior. This even includes Izuku, as (I believe) he even defended Bakugou against something Monoma said once (I can't remember if it was to his face or not)

After the USJ, Bakugou acted like he was better than the other students because he easily beat real villains. This was the rest of the school's first introduction to 1A. So Monoma, incorrectly, assumed that 1A shared Bakugou's behavior. Dumb on his part, but again, 1A didn't really condemn his behavior so they didn't help their cases there either

1A is, rightfully, annoyed with Monoma's behavior, but is fine with Bakugou's. Most of the people who condemn Monoma are Bakugou's friends (Kirishima and Sero mainly). This also replicates his childhood. He was treated differently for his quirk while people like Bakugou were praised. So I can see why he continues to antagonize 1A even if I don't agree with it

It really comes down to 1A as a whole being bystanders and hypocrites, which we know they are. They allow and defend Bakugou's behavior, even though he's been awful to them and other people. I can't blame Monoma for having a distaste for them, even if he does go too far with it.

(Also, it wasn't just Monoma who thought like this. The rest of UA resented 1A too)

Monoma's an asshole, but that's not really a problem for me. Because a) he's called out and condemned for it and b) it's really not that serious. He's not malicious or cruel, he's just an overzealous jerk

3 months ago
Even Shinsou Thought That Mineta Should've Been Expelled. FREAKING SHINSOU!!!

Even Shinsou thought that Mineta should've been expelled. FREAKING SHINSOU!!!

Hi @anartisicandautisticstararcher 👋

Yeah at this point I don't know why mineta wasn't expelled from UA.

I still don't understand how teachers and people saw mineta's behaviour and simply said nothing. They just let it happen.

Like remember what he did to the girls in the Sports Festival by getting them to wear cheerleaders uniforms or what he done to momo in particular by literally attaching himself to her.

THIS IS ON LIVE TELEVISION!!?!?!?!

Aren't momos parents influential and rich why didn't they do something about this?

Even Shinsou Thought That Mineta Should've Been Expelled. FREAKING SHINSOU!!!

Heck, this isn't even something that he does once. NO, he does it multiple times.

Heck, mineta's pervy and inappropriate behaviour happen so often that there are literal YouTube video compilations of them reaching more than 5 minutes. For a side character who doesn't get much screentime for all of it to be centred around you, being a pathetic sexual harraser is absurd to me.

Even Shinsou Thought That Mineta Should've Been Expelled. FREAKING SHINSOU!!!
Even Shinsou Thought That Mineta Should've Been Expelled. FREAKING SHINSOU!!!
Even Shinsou Thought That Mineta Should've Been Expelled. FREAKING SHINSOU!!!

Also, let's not forget that this is the character that hori claims to be his self insert because he also describes himself to be a bit of a perv.

5 months ago
The Full Cover I Did For @kizukizine2023 🔥🌔😈🔥

the full cover i did for @kizukizine2023 🔥🌔😈🔥

it's based on "the night parade of a hundred demons", where a whole bunch of supernatural creatures parade into the real world. it's pretty iconic imagery to me, and the two most immediate examples i have of it being referenced is jjk's s2 op2 and the bridge crossing scene in spirited away.

other fun facts: the moon in the back is a waxing moon (one of the translations for kizuki/upper moon) and is visually inspired by botw's blood moon; hantengu is holding gyokko's vase lol; the character on their lamps is the one that denotes their being an upper moon, so they all have it in their eye as well.

hope yall pick up a copy of this digital zine!

pre-orders close DEC 20!

KIZUKI Zine 2023
KIZUKI Zine 2023
2 months ago

ahshshshs under EVERY shinsou edit or content i see on tiktok… theres always a comment saying:

“me and the 5 other shinso stans are going to love this”

listen ok i GET when its for actual underrated characters…

BUT dude is not just perfectly rated, hes actually OVERRATED!!

he’s literally in the top 10 character tags for MHA, over characters with FAR more relevance and screentime!!

hes in MORE fics than the MAIN VILLAIN!

hes in more than dabi… than hawks… than shigaraki!!

if anything he sould have around the equivalent to like monoma in fics since they have equal relevance, with him being more important earlier on and monoma being quite intergral toward the end but BOTH existing from the sports fest arc!

he literally has 49K FICS‼️

monoma has almost 9K for comparison

midoriyas best friend iida only has around 37k!

and shigaraki has less than 32k!

5 months ago

We really need to talk about how freaks use “gay rights” to defend awful and disgusting behavior in media. It’s so stupid.

You don’t like that trash ass fan fiction website with child porn of real life children and racist content like slave fics? You’re an awful person who is against gay rights and is for full blown censorship!

You don’t like that movie where a teenager is going out with a grown ass man and is written by a pedophile? You are homophobic.

You don’t like the creepy “magical girl” anime where middle schoolers are sexually assaulted by multiple things including tentacles in graphic detail and is made for lolicon freaks? You hate lesbians and love to demonize their freedom of speech.

Deep down, they know that this kind of stuff is creepy and that no one likes it. So they latch on to a real issue to defend their sick fantasies

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