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In the light of the very recent episode I think we as the fandom must understand now that Gabriel telling Marinette to "make sure that Adrien remembers him as a good father" was specifically just so Adrien would continue his last will more willingly as the new Monarch by making everyone singing Gabe's praises taking away his blame while also setting up everyone who knows the truth as liars so Adrien can channel his anger through them and not him with him no longer being present too. Gabriel specifically set Marinette up to fight her own boyfriend and end their romance while still extending his control over Adrien. Damn what a douchebag

marinette plays over every scenario in her head. who can she tell? who will she hurt by saying the truth, and who will she hurt more by not saying anything at all? can’t tell alya. she already knows so much, and her lips can only stay sealed up to a point. can’t tell chat noir. she knows him too well, he’d want the world to know the truth too, wouldn’t he? and she can’t reveal everything plus also ask him to pretty please keep mum about this, hawkmoth’s son is the love of my life and the world will tear him to shreds if they know. and she can’t tell adrien either, right? he’s the one person she was instructed not to tell at all cost, and he’d want to tell everyone too, wouldn’t care that everyone would hate him, but she does. she wants him to be safe. she wants him to be happy. she wants him to be unburdened by the title of ‘supervillain’s son’, because surely ‘both my parents are dead’ is more than enough to bear. but then the guilt that should’ve been hers and hers only seeps into him, and sinks its teeth into him, and she can’t pull it out. she hears his random remarks and asides that reek of deep sadness, regret. how can someone be a hero if they weren’t even a decent person for most of their days? it’s a terrible thing to have to reconcile, let alone for one’s father. and then there’s the stench of putrid pancakes, wafting through those long corridors of that too big, too lonely house, every time marinette creeps in, like she still doesn’t belong there. and then there’s the letters. the little tokens of control, hidden anywhere and everywhere, physically inescapable. it’s like a treasure hunt that will go on forever until adrien finds out. how long will it last? how long will adrien frown and avert his gaze every time someone praises his godforsaken father? how many times must marinette be the only person in the room who sees it?

I would unironically love this. A Miraculous version and a non-fandom one (obvi with it's own dark story)

Miraculous Ladybug Dating Sim where you play as Marinette as she tries to build a romantic relationship with Adrien

It starts off all cute and sweet as Marinette tries to max her skills and social links to increase her chances of passing skill checks or learning important information about Adrien and his life so she can keep increasing that heart meter

But stuff starts getting weird

And the decisions start getting harder

And Marinette/the player starts to realise that there's a lot of stuff being learned that Adrien doesn't know

The choices become less about what would make Adrien happy and keep those hearts filling up, and more about what will keep him safe

Cause it turns out his family has done some really fucked up shit and he's none the wiser

And the game just keeps going, becoming less of a sugary sweet dating sim and more of a psycological horror

A "good ending" is no longer possible, so it all becomes about keeping the game going. Because if a slip is made, if Adrien finds out the truth, if the game ends - then what happens to Adrien? Does he disappear if the screen fades to black? Can he be saved if the game file is reset? Or will it be permanently game over?

Someone get Thomas and Jeremy on the phone

i think we should have an ep where Adrien loses the rings and is like "its ok, because the love I have for my parents will always be in my heart :) " - meanwhile Marinette is having 5 consecutive heart attacks and speed dialing Felix to see if he can make a trip from London and help find the rings

That is all i wanted too LOL

I've never hated ads so much until I got back into this crap shack of a website. Tumblr ads are the bane of my existence. And there's no "not interested"? If I see one more AI generated fruit chart or AI generated porn comic, I'm walking into HQ with a rubber mallet

I know this comic was very much about Marc and Nath and I very much don't want to take that away from them, but I definitely see the parallels between Rain-Piercer & Sun-heart and Ladybug & Chat Noir.

Maybe it's obvious, but I enjoy analyzing it!

Sun-Heart clearly parallels Adrien/Chat. Blonde/golden hair, the whole 'Sunshine' aspect? AdriChat's bright and sunny disposition?

Then we have Rain-Piercer. Dark hair, more concerned about the consequences of them revealing? And the reference to all of the rain symbolism between Adrienette/LadyNoir?

Lets' break it down:

So this could be taken one of 2 ways:

1) This might be referring to the final battle with Monarch. It's showing us that this could have happened between then and now, That LB and CN discussed revealing after Monarch was defeated. Though since we know they didn't reveal, I'd say it's more likely it's a potential hint to the future--

2) Lila/New Butterfly is the "Deep Darkness" (Though it could also refer to the council stuff) And this is foreshadowing what could happen once they defeat her.

Now they realize that if they reveal, they would have to give everything up. Stop being LB and CN? Maybe even never see each other again if their only connection remains their time as heroes.

Chat is ready to reveal but Ladybug warns him the consequences of revealing their identities.

If Chat Noir reveals himself to Ladybug, then he won't be allowed to be Chat Noir any more.

I'm guessing the Great-Rain is referencing the Celestial Guardian, or maybe the order of the Guardians or something. Maybe even Ladybug herself, as she's the current Guardian. Considering her parallel's name here is Rain-Piercer and the authority in this story is 'the Great Rain' it could very well be that they mean 'Ladybug' and 'Ladybug as Guardian'.

And the sacred armor is obviously the Miraculous.

But Chat is ready to reveal. He's waited so long. He wants this. Like it says, He'd rather lose his powers than his partner, who's always been by his side.

Now we have Ladybug, convinced by Chat that she wants this too. She decides to go through with it. Renounce her burden (With a passion!)

Interestingly enough, this time it says 'powers of the Great-Sun...' which... they just said it was the Great-Rain, so I'm wondering if this is a mistake, or intentional? I'd have to really listen to the french to pick out exactly what's said. Maybe 'Great-Sun' is intentional and means something. I'll come back to this if I figure it out!

And then of course, we get the happy ending and the much-awaited reveal and kiss! So Chat Noir and Ladybug reveal, and they have their beautiful moment!

But.

This is the re-written version.

In their original draft, they both gave up their powers to be together. Nathaniel thought it was unfair that they should lose everything and not have their happy ending.

This is something fans have been discussing for ages. And there's the whole possibility of Ladybug losing her memories if she renounces her Guardianship, which has also been hinted at in this season already.

So Nathaniel changed the ending to ensure they got to keep their powers and have their happy ending.

So is Nathaniel a parallel to the writers themselves? Changing the lore to ensure that Ladybug and Chat Noir can continue their journey even after an identity reveal?

So then this leaves the question of which version we're going to get by the end? Is this their way of showing us that they can continue the show for 12 seasons AND still give us the big reveal?

I mean, how do you continue a show like this for so many seasons and keep the fandom on the line for that long with no reveal? This could be their way of introducing the idea that the story CAN continue post-reveal!

That's just my thoughts on the matter anyway! I hope you enjoyed my breakdown!

I cannot wait for that scene's future consequences

I am a grown ass adult and I still get nausea when I feel like I'm in trouble. They're gonna send me to the principals office and take away my toys for a week. Can you just fucking kill me instead of making me stew in my fucking anxiety

I mean, fuck, I like bed. I like sleep. I like cozy blankies I like napping, I like to eep. I like Z catching and wink catching and counting sheep. I like doing beddie bye shit. Snooze it? Honk mimi

WAS I ASLEEP? WHAT DO YOU MEAN ANOTHER EPISODE IS OUT? I DONT REMEMBER THERE BEING ANOTHER ONE

Juleka's song was amazing. I love that she got to shine, but I can't get over not hearing the battle. To me, it was weird and felt empty. I wish there was at least like thuds and clanging, some callouts🧍‍♀️

It might be the 'tism, but it took me aback lol

Alya's anger was valid, but i think it's CRAZY for her to yell at Mari, "I don't like lying!" Like, you think your BESTIE does?!😭 you should know by now that it eats at her, too. Then just basically tells her bestie she doesn't want to help carry her burden (thanks, Pookie)

But still, very valid anger; Alya wasn't there in the action. Mari was and is a child, and there was no time to think of the "right-er" option

We, as the audience, get that privilege.

A 14 year-old child that just witnessed her boyfriend's assistant be the villian's side-kick and die, his mother in a see-through coffin, and his father be THE villian and achieve his wish to reunite with his deceased wife by killing himself instead of listening to the child plead with him to live the rest of his time caring for his child. All in the span of maybe half-an-hour to a couple hours (really not a lot of time). She did not get that same privilege. Only thoughts in her head are probably,

"What the fu-"

before the next and next event.

If she told him, he'd probably let it slip and then everyone would know and everyone would be outside his only "home" with torches and pitchforks. He didn't slip? He continues pretending with the people mourning his father, the villian, to his face. Yadda yadda, the other options, blah blah

This scene was intense between Alya/Rena Rouge and Mari/Ladybug, Alya was mad at Mari for Flying to her about Gabriel was Monarch. And you can hear Mari's voice in the end it was like she wanted to cry 💔😭

So Climatiqueen just premiered and I have to say...

Aurore's character is the perfect example of how a returning antagonist should be handled, don't recycle them for the sake of recycling them, continue to build on what we know of THEM, because that's what makes them unique, if you don't do so, then there's no reason as to why any other character wasn't in their place.

For example, in this episode the writers used the established foundation Stormy Weather gave them about Aurore's interests to fit the theme of discovering your passion (and to possibly lay the groundwork of foreshadowing Ladybug's reputation downfall, as It's honestly very suspicious the social media theme was the focus of two episodes in such a short amount of time). Thanks to that, we now know that Aurore wanted to win the role as climate presentator in 'Stormy Weather' because meteorology was her passion, and not solely because of popularity as we previously thought (though that did play a role as well, as this episode proves), adding layers to her character in a way that feels justified as they are relevant to the story we're being told (unlike other instances where they can feel like an unnecessary info dump because of bad timing, like Gabriel's backstory, or so I've been told, I haven't followed Miraculous since early S3 lol).

I'm a sucker for little continuity details like that because it helps cement the idea that the world is alive, and it makes me appreciate the analytical labor writers go through in order to do help this illusion remain believable.

marinette and adrien being in a relationship is so funny because both of them will want to help anyone in distress and neither will back down so they’ll both hold some random struggling person’s hand and run away?? but then marinette will be like OH FUCK. right im the guy who fixes the distress!! guess i gotta make a shitty excuse and fuck off!! and then adrien is like oh now that my beautiful girlfriend has left my field of vision im remembering IM A SUPERHERO AND NEED TO FIX THIS LIFE-THREATENING SITUATION!! i sure hope my girlfriend doesn’t get attacked while she’s purchasing 16 apples from the fishmonger and retrieving 27 balls of yarn she’s suddenly misplaced. meanwhile the person they were previously consoling is like what the fuck they both just ditched me after insisting they wanted to make me feel better what is their damn problem

From day one, there have been multiple theories and interpretations about what Adrien’s future career path and passions would be as we all wanted to see this boy be able to choose and discover something for himself rather than the dozens of activities his father was making him do. I believe the most popular theories in the fandom were Adrien becoming a baker or a stay-at-home dad. I think the popularity of these theories arose due to Adrien being good with kids and showing a fondness towards Marinette’s family and their bakery in early seasons. Furthermore, as Miraculous is built on subverting gender roles, and Adrien’s characterisation is more traditionally feminine with the narrative I guess we were building on that (and men taking on more domestic roles seems to be loved in fandom spaces in general).

However, I hadn’t quite seen running as a potential career choice for Adrien and most of us wouldn’t expect it either.

I, for one, didn’t expect it but I am not disappointed and I think it makes a great lot of sense for his character for three reasons.

Reason #1

As much as I love baker and stay-at-home dad Adrien aus, I’m glad that canon chose not to take that route in this episode. I think that choice would be more detrimental to his character rather than beneficial in our canon narrative.

As Thomas commented, so much of his character already revolves around Marinette considering that he’s pretty much all he has left and feels the most comfortable around her right now. (Even before his father’s death, his sense of identity seemed to revolve around her a lot as we saw him expressing that his love for her was the only thing he was sure of in S5. I think it’s because he’s been deprived of autonomy so much that he seems to be used to basing his desires around other people’s).

That’s why I believe him going into baking or being a stay-at-home dad at the future would not really help him grow as a character as both those choices still keep him under Marinette’s wing.

As this episode established, Adrien needs to figure and explore his passions for himself. Whilst Marinette will always be there for him, he needs to understand what he wants by his own volition.

(Having him make a breakthrough in discovering his interest for running without Marinette at the end of this episode was a great start!) Reason #2

I thought it was interesting how they started this sequence with Adrien looking up sadly at his big and lonely house before running away from it.

It takes me to what Sublime asks him later on.

This is what Adrien has wanted from Season 1: to run away and escape the four corners of his house to explore the outside world. It feels like a callback to Origins where I think of Adrien running away from house to start school. There’s also several times in the show where he runs away to escape the cold and lonely atmosphere his house brings.

The bars on the gate of the house in this scene also makes it look so much like a prison.

Of course, we now have Adrien standing on the outside of it rather than inside considering that the person who was keeping him in the house in the first place is dead.

It still doesn’t mean that Adrien thinks of the house as less of a prison. An association like that is hard to forget especially now that the house is where both his parents died.

But now, without Gabriel, we know he’s free to run from it for as long as he wants.

I also want to add that in Hinduism, running is considered as a physical response to escape distress.

Reason #3

Should someone’s passion really be built on running away from something else? Well no. But I don’t think we’re meant to see it that way. Adrien running at the end of this episode away from his house is meant to symbolise him finally breaking free from the Gabriel’s controlling influence. Him running away is mainly a step towards his growth.

Besides, running isn’t only seen as means to escape problems but it also signifies pursuit of a goal and taking on a spiritual journey for self-growth. (Dream analysis tends to associate both escapism and pursuit to running in dreams depending on the context and circumstance). This also fits Adrien’s character quite well. Not only is he escaping past trauma, but he’s taking on a new journey to explore what he wants in life.

So yeah, let the boy run!

I’m super excited to see where they take his characterisation with this one. The symbolism behind his potential passion/career choice is just gorgeous.

Edit: I’d just like to make it clear that I don’t see this scene as Adrien finding his passion for life. I more or less see it as Adrien taking a step forward to discover something he potentially is passionate about by himself without input from any of the people in his life (he also makes a new friend on his own and that makes me happy). Running is indeed a potential career choice for Adrien, and it could possibly be something he can see himself doing in the future, and we will definitely get more buildup to this passion of his in future episodes too! It’s not a definite career choice for Adrien though, because as Marinette said, he’s young and he has plenty of time to explore what he’s passionate about. This scene isn’t really about making a definite choice, but rather Adrien being allowed to explore something he feels is right by his own choice.

Too many voices; I can't even claim my own space😒

"it's all in your head" correct! unfortunately I am also in there

I just know I look insane with this constantly playing in my head

"et je t'aime" intensifies

*screams at the top of my lungs in agreement*

MLB Revelator episode rant (spoiler warning)

I've read lots of opinions about who's right when it came to Marinette's secret about Gabriel being Monarch. There are people who defend Alya and there are people who defend Marinette. When it comes to me. I honestly can't blame neither of them. I can't blame Marinette for keeping this secret. I can't blame Alya for getting mad at her. But you know who I can blame? GABRIEL FUCKING AGRESTE. He was a fucking dick to his very end. I don't even know if the show truly wanted him to be a sympathetic villain or not, because most of the time he wasn't even nice to his own son and he had like... one... two, sympathetic moments? While 95% of the time he was busy terrorising Paris, innocent people and traumatizing literal children. HIS SON INCLUDED. What he asked Marinette, before taking that wish, was literally so cruel and selfish. He asked her to lie. He MANIPULATED her into lying. Lying that he, a TERRORIST, was a damn HERO. She's a kid for god's sake. And he was a grown ass man-

I hope there's a moment we get a deep dive into her thoughts and it's like that Spongebob scene

and her fighting it because Marinette shouldn't know what's going on

I think people forget Marinette is like 14.

(Disclaimer; I only roughly know what going on in season 6 so, correct me if I’m wrong. )

Marinette was given the truly impossible decision of either A), telling her recently orphaned boyfriend, that his father, who just JUST DIED, was the super villain whose been terrorizing him and everyone he loves, for a year now. To make matters worse, he and his father had a very broken relationship, that he’ll never have the chance to fix, because he’s dead. Or B), Telling her orphan boyfriend, that his dead father, at least died a hero, but forever living with the burden of knowing that’s a lie.

To make matters infinitely worse, she has like an hour to decide. Plus, whichever she chooses she’ll have to tell both Adrien and the rest of the country HERSELF. So, of course Marinette, who’s used to lying to “protect” others, picks option B. Was it the right decision? Absolutely not. But she shouldn’t even have to make that decision, SHES A CHILD.

The two adults who knew the situation she was in, Tikki and Natalie, don’t even try to convince her to tell the truth. And her best friend, the only person she might’ve ever told she did this, Is (rightfully) PISSED with her, even though she also chose not to deal with the burden of knowing that when given the opportunity. Getting mad at your best friend for not saying and then also choosing not to say anything is wild (again correct me if im wrong about the situation, I haven’t seen the episode yet)

The fact Marinette hasn’t had an actual mental breakdown over this is insane. HER VILLAIN ARC WILL BE LEGENDARY.

*In the most adoring voice*

Aglae looks like how Danganronpa would draw Jojo from Horton Hears A Who

I was and STILL am FIGHTING back squeals to not wake up my roomie. STOP

I can't handle this cuteness

Nah I see why Marinette went crazy after Sublime showed up

Switching between these every day

Me after any inconvenience

It's so baffling to me that people will blame marinette for literally anything. At the beginning of the episode we see her talking about Sabrina and how happy she is that she's changed and is now helping people. And then she shifts her focus to her planned date with Adrien for most of the episode.

But GOD FORBID, she asks ONE QUESTION, in a not sweet saccharine princess tone, because she is CONFUSED, and lacking CRITICAL INFORMATION, which is what the ENTIRE EPISODE BUILD TOWARDS, and she's suddenly "mean" and "a bully" and "ruined this season".

Like. Some people make it so blatantly obvious that they just look for reasons to shit on a fictional 14 year old girl due to her simply existing. C'mon.

me

[guy with the Cant Focus Disorder] why the fuck can't I focus

Just gonna...

Revelator analysis: Marinette remembering the Umbrella scene incorrectly

You know what I find really interesting about the interview scene in "Revelator" where Adrinette retells how they met? Marinette is actually getting a few details wrong.

Mind you, no deal breakers. She got all the emotional beats down accurately. And I will only truly take this as canon anyway when the French original has her misremember things the same way. But for now, it's really interesting that MARINETTE is the one who gets a couple of details wrong about the moment she fell SO in love with Adrien, while Adrien himself is out here making no such mistake in the whole interview:

This is correct. Simple as that.

This one... is on very thin ice. In reality, Marinette had just left the building and noticed it was raining when Adrien started talking to her. Yes, she was ready to wait until the rain stopped, but she never truly got to the waiting part:

But, by all means, if this were only this detail, I wouldnt make this post right now. Even if, factually, she didnt wait, she just noticed it was raining and thought she had to wait.

But let's get back to this later because there is another layer to this that was the catalyst for me writing this. But for now, moving on:

This is correct again. Adrien, in fact, had an umbrella.

But here is the thing:

This is... straight up wrong. Objectively. What Marinette reacted negatively to was Adrien trying to be friendly and saying "Hi" to her:

He only offered his umbrella at the end, so Marinette claiming so confidently in "Revelator" that she at first turned down the umbrella is false. Adrien opened it for himself because he was the one standing in the rain for a bit while explaining his perspective:

I sure don't see any umbrellas being turned down here, Marinette. So what exactly are you remembering? Just saying.

From this point onwards, the Adrinette interview is accurate again because 1) it's about the emotional core of it, and 2) well, Adrien is then talking the most because it's about him and Marinette is mostly just adding to it. So, yeah...

Look, I don't wanna say that this is some deep betrayal of love and proof that Marinette's love for Adrien isnt real. Of course not. And again, there is still the chance that the line in question is right in the French original (though, I do gotta say, I doubt it because that would change the natural flow of the conversation)

I just find it interesting that the thing about THE Umbrella scene that Marinette gets wrong is the UMBRELLA itself and how and when it was extended to her.

Cause, well... This is not a documentary. Marinette is not a real life person who can mix some things up without it meaning anything. She's the main character and the main narrative tool of the story.

This is the moment SHE FELL IN LOVE WITH ADRIEN. Pretty much 80% of what she does in this show goes back to this moment. In story-telling practice, yes, her being the one who recalls that moment incorrectly should mean something.

Bad faith reading: it's a major indicator that Marinette is actually not as invested in Adrien and their relationship anymore as she was once upon a time. Her needs and desires have changed and that's causing problems now.

Good faith reading (and I genuinely mean good faith reading. Fucking BEST faith reading, in my opinion):

The details that Marinette gets wrong about the Umbrella scene actually correspond with the ending of "Strike Back" where Marinette's lightning moment happened with Chat Noir:

Cause if you combine Marinette's memories of the Umbrella scene with the Strike Back scene, then, yes, Marinette WOULD remember standing way longer in the RAIN before Adrien eventually came to her:

Not because that's how it factually happened in "Origins", but because she was alone in the rain for a solid bit before Chat Noir arrived in "Strike Back".

But the most important thing is that, if you combine the two lightning scenes, this objectively incorrect line actually checks out again:

Because the moment Marinette fell in love with Chat Noir was about him having extended his hand several times but her having pushed him away and held at arms length:

Marinette in the Umbrella scene didnt turn down Adrien's umbrella. Not only because that simply didnt happen, but also because Adrien only had the opportunity to offer it ONCE which she then immediately took. Chat Noir, on the other hand (is that a pun?), did offer the gesture she then fell in love with more than once, which she initially turned down, but eventually accepted.

So, again, worst faith reading: we were supposed to pick up on Marinette remembering the iconic Umbrella scene incorrectly which is supposed to subtly tell us that life has changed Marinette's feelings for Adrien for the worse because she's simply not the girl she was a year ago and the love she once wanted doesnt fit her needs anymore, so it's fading and getting drowned out.

Best faith reading: It's a subtle hint that the love she once wanted doesnt really fit her needs anymore, but the one that does more and more now is Chat Noir who, as we all know, is Adrien Agreste.

Though, no matter which one it is, one truth remains: Marinette remembered the UMBRELLA SCENE wrong and that means something.

I'm so glad to finally see my people😭

Season 6 so far seems like a big improvement in some areas, specifically Marinette.

It's kinda annoying seeing how many people keep bringing up the London special saying she's no longer mature or that it's like she forgot everything that happened.

Because so far it feels like a normal progression of her character. Because it's a regression. The intro spells it out: her knowing Gabriel's secret is eating her up and it's eating her relationship up.

The way she has no idea how to behave around Adrien after that, asking Alya and Nino to join her date because everything has to be perfect.

The idea of Sublime and Adrien possibly talking about her without knowing what they're saying about her, wanting to make sure they're friends.

Getting so worked up over a 100th kiss where the stars and planets align as a sign of good luck that everything is going to be alright and crying when he doesn't show up.

She's literally going out of her way to make sure everything is perfect to make up for the fact that the one thing that's out of her control could not only hurt their relationship, but seriously hurt Adrien in the process.

And so far I'm really liking this route they're taking with her character. It's subtle but effective.

do not put ur life on hold because of how u feel about ur body. don’t postpone trips or cute clothes because u want to wait until u are thin. life is happening right now. u r beautiful right now.

I heard both. Brain needle

First there was Yanny Vs. Laurel, now there’s Brainstorm Vs. Green Needle.