It's been a pleasure clowning with you guys the past 4 weeks. I have one more theory to post and then I'm done. It's nice to know that even if we don't see Billy again, there's a tag full of people to commiserate with. And that Billy will live on in mulleted splendor in fanfic and fanart. No matter what the antis or the Duffers say, we know the truth about Billy and about all of the folks like Billy who are doing their best to recover from childhoods full of abuse, rejection, and abandonment.
Keep your heads up, guys. I hope the Friday release gives you everything you're hoping for. But if it doesn't, the tag is here for you.
I love my mom.
I am risking nothing
I AM SORRY FOLLOWERS, I LOVE MY MOMMY
Will not risk.
sorry followers :(
im not even surprised it's the billy stans that are supporting grace and the eddissy shippers because if anyone knows what it's like to get hate, it's us.
Can you IMAGINE the outrage antis would have if Snape was the one who:
Attacked his crush’s childhood friend unprovoked
Gagged said friend with soap
Hung said friend upside down and exposed their undergarments
Tried to coerce crush into a date with the promise to stop tormenting their friend
Threatened to pull down said friend’s underwear in front of already riled up crowd
They would be frothing at the mouth.
But because it was Mr. James “Blank Slate” Potter, he gets a pass because antis can fill their uwu headcannons into him like how he would have been a feminist HAH.
“BuT jAmEs gReW uP aNd mAtURed bY hIS 7th yEaR”
Umm…no hun, he didn’t. The evidence comes straight from the mouths of Sirius and Remus. You know…his BEST FRIENDS.
He was still hexing Snape behind Lily’s back in 7th year. Whether or not Snape started it first is irrelevant. A mature person would have talked to Lily about what was happening instead of hiding it. Why hide it if you’re not in the wrong?
On another note, NO ONE is really “grown up” at age 17. I’m a 23 year old woman (not that older than James when he died) and I can tell you that there was still ALOT of growing up I had to do when I was 17-21 years old and STILL need to do to this day.
Moral of this rant is that antis are hypocrites and need to stfu.
When Mihael Keehl shows more respect for our BAMF Naomi Misora than her own fiancé.
The anguish on El’s face just screams “Well shit, if this is how my best friend feels about her own BROTHER, what will she think of me if she hears about all horrible stuff I did?”
El knows she could have easily been a female version of Billy if she didn’t get an intervention in the form of the party, Hopper, and the Byers family. So to hear her best friend talk about another abused kid like that….it must have hurt deeply.
billy fans 🤝🏽 el: understanding billy's actions and sympathizing with his past
TikTokers saying "oh you love billy but hate argyle" uh what 😃
I've literally never met a billy fan who said anything bad about Argyle. I mean... I love both characters. This narrative is getting old fast.
I don't know where they got these ideas from, honestly.
So if you like... a fictional character... who happens to be a teenage ab*se victim... then you're automatically racist and/or homophobic?
If you want to really get into this, I think you mean IT character Henry Bowers, and he and Billy are not the same. The Duffers wanted them to be, but fortunately Dacre made sure that didn't happen.
You're forgetting that ST is literally a bunch of Stephen King references without substance or originality. The Duffers wanted Billy to be Henry Bowers. If you think Billy was bad, I suggest you read IT (the movies are available too in case y'all don't know how to fucking read).
joseph quinn at stranger con, november 6th 2022.
To the many peoole who think Billy is a irredemable characther and completly beyond redepmtion or deserved to die. Cool. Have your opinion but I would suggest that those people never go into the field of child protection or working with abuse victims. The thing about abuse victims, especially child victims is that anger and lashing out are very normal behavioural reactions. They model what they see, they use toughness to protect themselves or to convince the world they don't care. It self protection and survial.
This is a kid who gets beaten by his dad, got left by his mother and never understood why she didnt take him too, left to the hell she was trying to escape from. Got a new family thrushed upon him where it felt like this new sister got treated better than him for no reason and at the time of his death was still living in that horrible situation. He was still a kid when he died. Now does that excuse his actions and they way he treated Max or any or the rest of themm No it doesn't. Is Max entitled to how she feels about him? Sure. She has her own trauma. But was he evil? Nah, he was a scared, lonely kid who never got to explore the world outside his abusive life. Who obviosuly has enough good in him to sacrifice himself at the end, who seemed like he never truly wanted to hurt anyone judging by how upset he was.
In my opinion the way many see Billy is sympathetic of how we treat kids going through these situations. It is easy to feel sympathetic and wanting to help the kid who is showing the signs we expect of trauma, the ones we feel just removing them from the environment and showing love will magically fix. Its easier to look at season 1 Eleven who hid and didnt speak, (also valid reactions to trauma) but the truth of it is that the Billy's are far more the norm in these situations than we think and I have worked with many and not a single one was irrredemable or beyond growing for the better and there is not a single kid who deserved what happneed to them. Billy is no differnt. I really think he could have grown as a characther and had the potential to be able to make up for his actions and forge a relationship with Max.
Anger and lashing out is one of the signs of abuse we we are taught to look for. So if you are someone who is abuse victim and sometimes the only way you can deal with it is to lash out and get angry just know you are not bad or beyond help, and I am proud of you for surviving the best way you onow how and for wanting to change. You are dealing with your situation the best you can and you can grow. Your are more than a sum of your worst moments. I ❤️
The characther of Billy deserved way better than Season 4. Why do that to him? Uhh!
Because what a backhanded ass concept.
Harry for Severus: Harry is literally the only person alive who knows or cares about everything Severus did in the background for years to stop Voldemort. The only one who gave a shit about his own father’s bullying of Severus and showed to be disgusted with it.
Rey for Ben Solo: Again, the only person left alive who knows about Ben’s abuse by Snoke and him sacrificing his life for her. Hell, it’s not even known if Ray told anyone about it. She’s the only one who mourned his death (thanks novels) and saw him as a human and not a monster.
Max for Billy: Once again, only person that gives a shit that he’s dead (yeah know besides his abuser) only person that seems to care about his sacrifice. Oh, and let’s not forget the kick in the face line of “Your braver than you’re brother.” You know your brother who tried to fight off an interdimensional mind controlling monster for weeks alone. The one who sacrificed his life to stop it from, who knows taking over the world. But who cares about that, the writers clearly don’t.
So, have you guys noticed a fucked up pattern here?
Abuse victim who did not cope properly must sacrifice their life for some great or good, and even than what they did will never fully be recognized.
Even in death the narrative is still actively punishing them, by either lack of acknowledgement or their sacrifice being reduced. Similar to the very abuse they faced.
Notice something else these three all have in common? No support system. No one to turn to, no one to acknowledge their abuse, no one to help them. And yet this itself isn’t even acknowledged or even brought to attention in the story.
Now in the end am I saying all these writers planned this narrative? No
But am I pointing out how strangely common this formula is? Yes
Because it gives a message. Those who react badly to their abuse via anger or bad coping mechanisms deserve the bare minimum in storytelling.
They don’t get redemption arcs. You don’t get to see them heal, see them progress. Because they’re sacrifice was all they were in the end and even that won’t be acknowledged. Even in death they’re silenced once again.
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