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Long post of my star trekXmdzs au cause its Been a while:

-For one it would take place on a station. Why? Cause ds9 has taken over my brain :

-Wwx is a trill and the 1st officer: Both his parents passed away when he was a child resulting in him being taken in by a human family (the jiangs) and as he got older he grew the ambition to gain a symboite (As his mother and father) I feel like he'd probably have a huge culture clash because of living on earth and being so highly influenced by its culture and this causes.. complications for him during his training.

-Lwj (Okay so I keep flip flopping between vulcan!wangji and human!wangji because both seem to fit him so I've decided on half!human, half!vulcan wangji) he's the science officer of the station and hasn't spoken to his family in 7 years cause baggage! Who doesn't love emotional baggage?

Wangxian: They Met briefly during their years at starfleet academy though other than the academic rival thing they had going on there friendship never went deeper than that, ofc fate had it out with them so immediately after graduating they found themselves as bunk buddies on their first assignment, and their next assignment… and their next… (they were both promoted at the same time. Everytime.) I think their romantic feelings would start blooming somewhere between the time period before the station, though it only got srs during their time on the station.

Song lan is a human and also the commander: He was married to a ship captian (xiao xingchen (who was a trill) xiao xingchen passed during the war between the dominion (though some say his first officer had a hand in his death) he's pretty lonely but, he starts to open up once he meets wwx especially considering wwx happens to be related to his husband.

Jiang Yanli, Human and station counselor: She once had a very close bond with wwx (despite her toxic mothers involvement) but, after wwx got a symboite to her he completely changed, In Addition, They barely interacted for a while because of their jobs, though their time on the station reconnects them.

(Also jfm divorces yzy sometime when jyl is on duty, this is unrelated, but a big W for jyl)

Jin zixuan, Half ferengi and half human, and the chief of engineering: Not much too him but, his dad is horrible so.

Xuanli: Tbh I'd imagine in this au they wouldn't be endgame , Jl is still born but its by alien interference, they're besties tho dw it's fine.

Wen Qing, A bojarian, and the Cmo: Was never a fighter during the resistance mostly a healer, after the resistance she took an oath never to harm anyone unless needed , highly popular in starfleet medical, and famous on bajor.

Wen Ning, also bajoran, he's a nurse!: his backstory is pretty similar to Wen qing though id imagine he worked more in the physical field than the medical field during the resistance, still besties with wwx.

Nie Huaisang! An andorian, owns an art shop: he has a starfleet degree, He just really doesn't care about it, his brother is still salty about it.

Edit:

I forgot to mention, but the head of security is mianmian: shes a betazoid

I wish I had one to drop💔

Modern mdzs fic: except its just a story about wangxian meeting and eventually falling in love while working in customer service.

Modern mdzs fic: except its just a story about wangxian meeting and eventually falling in love while working in customer service.

Ohh yess I 100% agree with you, it is also quite baffling for to me (as someone whos been marinating in different danmei fandoms for quite a while) that mdzs is the novel that ended up with the fandom that refuses to admit antagonistic characters faults; especially since the novel basically spells it out for you multiple time; and fans always chalk up this stuff as like "Oh it's just how I interpreted the novel" and it's like their is nothing wrong with differently assessing smth; but when it comes to stuff that is spelled OUT for you you really have to to start thinking "am I going about this wrong?"

And yk the worst part? It's always the scenes that are SPECIFICALLY showing you the red flags that they use as evidence, Oh Jc kidnapping a wwx (who he already had enough evidence to fall under the impression that it was NOT wwx?) "That's because he missed his dear brother!" Oh... *insert Literally anything jgy did within the novel* "Ugh! He came from a bad background.... *and than they usually continue to degrade wwx I'm favor of jgy*

And I've said this before, (I am unsure if you've watched the cql yet) But the reason for such major misinterpretation could also majorly do with the cql, Since in the cql a lot of the blame gets directly put onto the Jins, And tbh... the cql kinda villianifies wwx a bit, and weirdly enough it clashes with some of the novel themes of having the wens (specifically wn&wq) innocent as they turn them into spies for wrh (Which to be fair, they use the excuse that wrh is forcing them into the role, but it still feels icky) and let's not forget the softening of jcs general character (Tho I could argue he's even worse in the cql because of the whole Wq/Jc plotline they tried to force) I am unsure if some fans have just completely confused the untamed canon with the mdzs Canon, or if its just them being willingly blind (actually i feel like thats probably also a part of it, literally had someone tell me "Jc turned Jl into a spoiled and rotten person! Out of love!" The other day , but honestly I've read a majority of fics where the jins are the "Complete bad guys" so I honestly do believe the untamed may have had a hand in it.

Though yes I agree with everything you've said so far, it's super infuriating for me and I'm not even usually a person that gets angry or upset over fanon misinterpretation, but the mdzs fandom just takes it to another level.

the myth of helplessness and the “hands-tied” rhetoric for authority figures in mdzs

i’m pretty sure every one of us has seen this notion echoed around for atleast one of the clan/sect leaders when it came to their compliance and/or active participation in the wen remnants’ genocide as well as their prior lack of help/refuge for the wen remnants once wei wuxian had rescued them. while this goes beyond just the way the cultivation world’s leaders handled the aftermath of the sunshot campaign (namely, their lackadaisical approach to helping civilians, exploiting those weaker than them, etc.), i’ll start with the genocide because that’s the crux of it all. that’s the nail in the coffin, that’s the biggest proof of why i feel so fucking angry whenever i see this sentiment of excusing/justifying/or even explaining why the sect leaders did what they did.

and like most skewed interpretations of mdzs (and i don’t mean this in a haughty superior way of only MY way of reading the text being THE right way but i feel like this is something we all have noticed after traversing the fandom waters for a while), this too begins with jiang cheng.

now, let me clear: jiang cheng, in full sobriety and clarity of thought, led the siege of the burial mounds to kill a group of innocent people, which included elderly women and men and a child. you would think this should be obvious but i’ll retierate: NOTHING justifies this, nothing excuses this. the same applies to every single sect leader and sect affiliated member who went for the siege that day and participated in the killings, whether directly or indirectly. this isn’t a nuanced situation and i personally feel that a discussion that begins with the premise of muddying the culpability of the people involved in the genocide shouldn’t even be entertained because the reasons do not matter. they just don’t. it doesn’t matter that nie mingjue’s personal philosophy stemming from his upbringing and loss gave him a narrowminded view of the “wen-dogs”. it doesn’t matter that jiang cheng was sunken in grief and rage after losing his sister. it doesn’t matter that the lans were convinced of wei wuxian’s deviousness and found it paramount to put an end to him and his affialites. it doesn’t matter that some were operating on half the information because when you march into the temporary residence of your supposed foes and kill them all in cold-blood despite them being unarmed and untrained—the weight of ensuring that your violence has a meaning, a justification is on YOU! if you’re committing this act, you have to make sure you aren’t being led blindly by manipulating rumors and ideals.

even before the genocide, before the nightless city massacre, before the qiongqi path ambush—the way i’ve seen handwaving of jiang cheng’s mindset regarding the wens is a little baffling. “he had the burden of being a sect leader” “he had to protect his clan, his hands were tied!” jiang cheng wielding power and authority are often repackaged as baggage that his poor self is so tragically saddled with. it genuinely puzzles the shit out of me. have we all forgotten about “with great power comes great responsibility”?? jiang cheng’s responsibility as a cultivation sect leader goes beyond just the immediate thought about his sect and towards the cultivation world as a whole and how injustice was taking place by a fellow prominent clan. we know this is extremely important because the whole reason the sunshot campaign happened and why it came down to a war was because of prior negligence by the clans towards the congregation of power by the wens. to recognise the same methods now being employed by the jins was, infact, part of jiang cheng’s responsibility. just saving your own neck doesn’t work, when the larger picture is considered. besides, giving the wens the backing of the jiang clan would NOT have brought down instant doom upon the jiangs. that was the whole point. that was why jin guangshan felt it necessary to put ideas into his head and lead him to a path of hostility towards wei wuxian (which is still a choice jiang cheng made, mind).

also, while we’re at it, you’re telling me that the jiang clan rebuilt in part due to wei wuxian’s insane gravitational pull towards aspiring cultivators, would NOT have stood behind wei wuxian if jiang cheng had only tried? hell, i would go far as to say that some jiang disciples would have WANTED to join wei wuxian’s side. there was risk. there would be trouble. but that doesn’t mean jiang cheng had no option. the path of least resistance leads the crooked men, does it not? besides, being a leader is not about tucking tail and keeping your head down. it’s about making the difficult choices and yes, for jc, in this scenario, refusing to help the wens and wei wuxian was the easy choice.

also this whole myth about the sect leaders not being able to do anything because their clans would become targets is sort of antithetical to the whole premise of them being sect leaders in the first place. they’re the only ones who can do something with comparatively less risk to their person and those they’re “protecting” because they have the power of organisation. if the holders of authority cannot make decisive lines in the sand and push for change and resist, who can? the disciples or civilians would have an easier time opposing the clans individually or in groups, you think? they would have less to lose? (we already have an example in the form of mianmian; the waves had to be made from the top in this time-sensitive situation).

these fanon tropes originate from somewhere i know. it’s interesting to think of how these authority figures perceive their power as burdens, how the prince doesn’t want to become king but is forced into the role, how inheritances, even the ones that favour you, can feel like shackles around your neck.

but this kind of sympathetic view of the antagonists and the wrong-doers in mdzs leaves a bitter taste in my mouth because time and again, we have been shown how these sect leaders are blissfully happy to reap the fruits of their inherited power and generational wealth and are the ones most protected by the system. jiang cheng was perfectly fine being the sect leader by default and his grievance was moreso that wei wuxian wasn’t around to be his subordinate. the less that is said about jin guangshan the better. even lan xichen’s troubles didn’t come from him holding power but from his prolonged semi-wilful ignorance regarding jin guangyao. nie mingjue, while alive, used his influence to make his voice heard and condemned the wens because that was his unshakeable opinion on the matter.

now, this isn’t to say all the sect leaders were the same brand of callous and incompetent. yes, they had their problems. yes, their positions didn’t automatically make them immune to harm. but they were not the poor little burdened leaders with “pragmatic” point of views, trying to keep their boats afloat.

the ones with their hands tied were these: the lower classes in the pyramid. the ones who relied on the clans for shelter and food. the civilians whose requests for help were denied by the cultivation sects. the wen remnants who couldn’t do anything to save themselves. wen qing and wen ning. wei wuxian, whose every avenue of help was closed. mianmian. and even, imo, lan wangji.

there’s another similar notion towards wei wuxian that because he was a subordinate and because he has lesser social standing, he had more “freedom”. what ass-backwards logic is this, to be honest? when has having lesser social status, political power and monetary resources given a person more freedom? more freedom would mean that wei wuxian could do anything he wanted and go unquestioned. more freedom would mean that he would be able to practice the ghostly path without every second person accusing him of demonic activities. you know who had more freedom? the nie sect! their resentful energy dabbling went unquestioned because they had more freedom, they were protected by the reputation and might of their clan. nie mingjue’s hypocritical stance went unquestioned because he had freedom, precisely because he had more power. wei wuxian having a big personality, being flirtatious and not being a picture-perfect version of properness (he had good manners regardless) is not having more freedom. if he had that personality and no one accused him of being arrogant and if it wasn’t used against him as means to sully his reputation, then yes, that would be true freedom. this last part is probably redundant but hope the point of it was relayed. just because wei wuxian’s able to authentically be himself despite the backlash he receives for it does not make his social standing somehow a more advantageous position to be in compared to the literal leaders of the cultivation world.

in conclusion, the sect leaders did not have their hands tied by some inherent circumstance, their thrones of power were not ill-begotten curses they were trying to escape from but all the tying was done by them and their ropes which they gleefully tied around the necks of the wens to silence them forever. and if that sentence makes you uncomfortable, great. because that’s the reality of what these people did.

NP LMAO, I'm literally obsessed with their au I basically share with any mdzs fan the minute I find out they like tma >:)

Also watching you live go insane over their arr rn shahhq.

Was scrolling through your blog and saw the ask abt you being a tma fan.

So now I'm wondering, have you seen @Themaymoth s tma X mdzs au yet?

:0???? I HAVE NOT. BILL ME 50$ FOR LETTING ME KNOW TY

Can't believe nobodies edited wangxian to redwine supernova yet.

I think wwx would have some of the curliest hair ever though he generally does not know how to take care it properly, not because he's unhygienic but, because nobody at Lotus pier really has his texture of hair.

Lan Wangji finds out about this somehow, and makes it his lifes misson to figure out a way to make wwxs hair life easier.

Mdzs but wwx never dies and he and lwj run away with the wens to become travellers :D

You guys know those fics where canon!mdzs characters get somehow transported to alt universes? Well Let that happen to wangxian and Co, but make them trying to get back home the B plot, while the A plot is actually just modern!lsz explaining modern slang to them.

Mod!Lsz: And the word "goat" is actually just a fun way to call someone "Cool"

Lan "Avid enjoyer of linguistics" Wangji (totally calm): There. Is. No. Correlation.

Another point that must be made is that modern lsz loves romance novel, so while bored one of the juniors come across modern!lszs Copy of 2ha... (for plot convience they can understand modern chinese) let's just say it was not a fun conversation.

STOP. IM OBSESSED WITH THIS. OBSESSED WITH THE WAY YOU DRAW THEM!!THE COLOFING ALSO AHHHHHH.

If the face says nothing, listen to the heart.

I see a lot of mdzs pop star aus going around, and they're all equally amazing but, they always (Again. Understandably) revolve around either wangxian and Co.

But yk what my ideal "popstar" mdzs au would be? Wq, Jyl and mianmian in a band, The trouple (tots not biased)

-Basically Jyl would be in the band because she genuinely has an interest in music (also because her parents did not... love her choice of becoming a music major, so she needs to get money somehow)

-I'd imagine she'd be the lead singer, cause why not?

-Wq wouldn't really be in it for interest, she actually wants to become a doctor though med school is expensive as hell and ever since granny Wen had retired she's been working 10 jobs at the same time. Someone save my girl.

-She'd play the guitar

-MianMian is just some guy who's in the band cause she's close friends with jyl, and she's also a music major.

-I'd imagine she'd have beef with her past employer tho (The Jins) and its comical.

-shes the drumiest.

Wait! That's so clever :0 Lwj basically forces the marriage (onto lqr) and we'd get a bunch of overprotective shidis and shimeis on our hand :)

Every once a while I will cross paths with a another sect! Wwx au and yk that's cool and all, but these aus always (understandably) revolve around the Great sects, but that's got me thinking of a wwx being adopted by the sect leader of a relatively new sect!

Here I go:

Wwx is picked up from the streets by the sect leader when he's 6-7(? I can't remember how old wwx was when jfm found him) originally for selfish purposes to increase the disciplines in his sect, but unfortunately for the man wwx grows on this man and his wife like fungus (also wwx being a genius prodigy makes him even more favorable)

I'd imagine by the time wwx is 15 the sect had grown a decent size... not big by any means but wealthy enough to afford an invite to the cr classes, ofc wwx and like a humble amount of disciplines from the sect are taken and wwx meets lwj blah blah.

So ik alot of u are asking. What would be the difference to canon? Difference is Wwx actually has a good support system in this universe, also lwj being the petty man he is marries INTO the small sect just to piss off all the big sect leaders (and his uncle+ brotherl)

(Actually tbh he also has valid reasons, but its funny to think of those as reasons too)

Feel free to add to this as it matinatez.

A lan wangji who covers his ears at sudden loud sounds, A wei wuxian that may or may not break your arm if you try to sneak up on him from behind (Less you're lwj ofc), A Wen Ning that fills up Wen yuans plate much more than needed (Wen Yuan tries his best to eat it all either way)

Every once a while I will cross paths with a another sect! Wwx au and yk that's cool and all, but these aus always (understandably) revolve around the Great sects, but that's got me thinking of a wwx being adopted by the sect leader of a relatively new sect!

Here I go:

Wwx is picked up from the streets by the sect leader when he's 6-7(? I can't remember how old wwx was when jfm found him) originally for selfish purposes to increase the disciplines in his sect, but unfortunately for the man wwx grows on this man and his wife like fungus (also wwx being a genius prodigy makes him even more favorable)

I'd imagine by the time wwx is 15 the sect had grown a decent size... not big by any means but wealthy enough to afford an invite to the cr classes, ofc wwx and like a humble amount of disciplines from the sect are taken and wwx meets lwj blah blah.

So ik alot of u are asking. What would be the difference to canon? Difference is Wwx actually has a good support system in this universe, also lwj being the petty man he is marries INTO the small sect just to piss off all the big sect leaders (and his uncle+ brotherl)

(Actually tbh he also has valid reasons, but its funny to think of those as reasons too)

Feel free to add to this as it matinatez.

Modern wwx was totally a twilight teen, This was horrible for everyone involved.

Mdzs as a sitcom would slap actually. Enough with the angst, I need a fic of the daily life in the wen-wei-lan household (Wwx lives with wq&wn, lan wangji is unofficially living there (he hasn't actually went home in over a year) ) I need a fic of wwx learning the recorder within the limit of a day! Give me the sitcom!mod au waiter!

I LOVE ELDRITCH HORROR WWX SO MUCH, like PLEASE mess him up even more! Lwj finds his creepiness attractive.

It's the lan genes

Idea;

Wei Wuxian returns from the burial mounds... changed.

Obviously he's changed; anyone would change after such an experience, not to mention his new proclivity for demonic cultivation.

But it's more than that. Lan Wangji can't put his finger on it, but there's something... off, about Wei Wuxian. No-one else seems willing to directly acknowledge it, but they feel it too.

Lan Wangji approaches Wei Wuxian as he digs up corpses for the army, and when Wei Wuxian stands to speak to him something deep in the corner of Lan Wangji's mind cries out, telling him that something isn't right, but he doesn't know why. Something about how Wei Wuxian stands, the movement of his body, seems wrong. But Lan Wangji can't put his finger on why.

Jaing Cheng is directing disciples as they prepare to march, and Wei Wuxian suddenly whispers in his ear from just behind, calling his name. He flinches and turns around to scold him for playing around, only... Wei Wuxian is over ten paces away. He's waving at Jiang Cheng, clearly having just called him, but he'd sounded so close. Jiang Cheng had felt his breath on his neck! No, he must be mistaken...

Nie Huaisang finds himself distracted when speaking with Wei Wuxian. Something doesn't seem right about his eyes, but he can't quite figure out what. The color? They're dark gray, but weren't they silver? Is there more pupil than normal? It something off about the shape? He finds that if he tries to focus on it, to figure out what it is that's bothering him, Wei Wuxian's features almost seem to blur; he can see the man clearly, but for some reason he can't pin down what about his eyes seems strange.

There are a million other stories. Sometimes his shadow doesn't match him. Maybe his voice holds a strange, echoing quality. Sometimes you can almost hear the cadence of an entirely different voice hidden in Wei Wuxian's tone. From the corner of their eyes, sometimes people see odd shapes on his figure; like an arm where it's not supposed to be, a shift in his skin, his hair blowing in the wind where there is no wind.

No too stories are the same, and no-one can actually describe what it is about Wei Wuxian that seems off. The only thing everyone can agree on, is that something is very, very strange about Wei Wuxian.

Peak character design is when mdzs artists draw postcanon!wwx a bit chubby, like yes! Lwj spoiling his husband, 10/10, Top tier, Give me more.

Fic idea(cause i just watched the mirror ds9 episodes): Wangxian (and others) accidentally activate a mysterious artifact? Array? Whatever you want, and end up in an alt dimension where roles are flipped.

Here is how it plays in my head-

-The Wens won the war in this universe.

-Wangxian are in charge of one of the major outposts with Wwx in charge and Lwj as his loyal subordinate (who is in charge of the posts military)

-Characters such as wq and wn and Wen Yuan would also be alive and evil because.. yk edgy verse, (also maybe jyl is also evil just cause.)

-Nmj and Lxc are head of the resistance, Lxc absolutely hates lwj for betraying him and killing their uncle.

*The fic would mostly consist of the og!characters getting absolute whiplash at their opposites personality, and helping with the resistance while they're there basically just what happens in the actual st!mirror episodes lol!

Had to do this

Thank you for Blessing me on this fine day

fem wangxian doodles 🥹

Ahh no I promise in not making fun off you </3 lyndon wee Johnson is just so funny because lwj=Lan wangji

Actually Lwj is so much better than me, Cause like the corruption of the cultivation world aside, If I lost my bisexual, raven haired princess who also happens to be a renowned heretic I would've had the crash out of the century.

Let's see how long I can go with this mdzsXst fixation lolll

Vague concept for this aus wangxian haha

They all work at a station xiao xingchen is the commander obv, here are some roles I've already established in my mind.

Xxc:Captian

Wwx:first officer

Lwj: chief of science

Jyl: chief linguistics

Wen Qing: Chief of medical (her brother is a nurse)

No idea who on who I should make chief if security, perhaps nmj?

Actually I just need a rougue!lwj fic where he somehow manages to save the wens and wwx, gets married to wwx, but instead of just straight up disappearing from the face of the planet he goes around messing with the sects, and when I mean by messing I mean he becomes the local crypid, full on myths and legends about the shadow of the "deceased" Hanguang-Jun throwing chickens at innocent folks.

Actually I've been thinking over my star trek X mdzs au again (which I plan on drawing soon)

And although I've been pretty vocal abt betazoid!wwx and vulcan!lwj I realised that while watching ds9 the other day...

What abt augment!lwj and trill!wwx instead, like wwx coming back as mxy after death tho still identifying as wwx from back than, lwjs mom (or dad) engineering him for *insert reason* without his consent and no one bothering to tell him even after his parents death, and once he finds out he cuts off lxc and lqr from his life etc etc

Like maybe it's just the ds9 brainworms speaking but.. cmon

My favorite fics are the ones where either bingqiu or hualian end up adoptiong wwx, like girl? What are you doing here😭😭?

Actually Lwj is so much better than me, Cause like the corruption of the cultivation world aside, If I lost my bisexual, raven haired princess who also happens to be a renowned heretic I would've had the crash out of the century.

Their are so many ppl who take yzy and jcs words of wwx as law, despite the fact that both yzy and jc are abusers with a victim complex similar to the size of China.

But that's besides the point, as others have said the Wen becoming powerful wasn't some sudden boost in status, at the point of the story we're in the wens had be destroying hundreds of smaller sects but, the major sects were willingly blind because they thought their status could protect them, both jfm and yzy were incompetent leaders .

I could also write essays abt how horrible of a person yzy really is, That women is an abuser to the max and all her ideals are deeply rooted in classism (see: literally how she speaks of wwxs and his parents or literally anyone else she believes to be lower than her) and disturbingly enough this behaviour is written off by the fandom as a quirky character trait, even worse sometimes her behaviour is excused by a "Oh yk that's just how Asian parents are like!" Like ppl srsly be stooping to racism for this women, But I degress Yzy AND fmg as characters barely get any screen time but I think from a narrative point they display the most public display of the corruption of the cultivation world, yzy is a full on classist, she bullies those weaker than her, commits unjust punishments etc, meanwhile Jfm is silent he sounds nice and sweet at first but in reality he hides behind his status, he's also a classist (many mdzs fans argue that jfm favored wwx over jc but canoncally there is no evidence of that, in fact the man literally tells wwx to protect his son before he dies) he's also willing to be blind to the atrocities around him for the sake of his own peace, and abt the wlj ordeal... I actually completely forgot she said that , it's been a while since I've read the source material but gosh how do people even defend this women-?

Am I missing something or is Yu Ziyuan half at fault for the Lotus Pier Massacre? I'm not talking about beating Wang Lingjiao up (understandable). But right before that, beating Wei Wuxian up to the point where he can barely move. And then when she starts beating up WLJ and orders her dead, WLJ escapes past WWX. He totally could've stopped her from setting off that signal flare if he hadn't been whipped with Zidian within an inch of his life.

I know there were a lot of factors and even if she hadn't beaten WWX up to the point where he couldn't do anything, or even if she grit her teeth and bowed down to WLJ (and subsequently cut off his hand), they probably would've found another excuse. But YZY's actions really didn't help.

Mdzs modern!au where having a wolf cut is the current trend, So Ofc Jyl wants one but yzy lacks any happiness in life to allow her daughter to get it done Therefore, she realizes the only way to get the job done is by inlisting her brothers(wwx) help.

One cut later Jyl comes out with uneven bangs and chunky hair, it's fine though wwx decides to mess up his own hair in solidarity.