Something That’s Literally Insane To Me Is The Amount Of Hypocrisy That Anti-Jedi People Have In Regards

Something that’s literally insane to me is the amount of hypocrisy that anti-Jedi people have in regards to the Jedi adopting Anakin.

(or “kidnapping” him, as they’d phrase it—as if Shmi wasn’t literally saying “take Anakin with you to become a Jedi” every other line in TPM, but whatever-)

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The Jedi: *adopt Anakin*

Anti-Jedi people/Stanakins: they kidnapped him, abused him, brainwashed him into suppressing his emotions, trapped him so that he couldn’t leave, and told him love was evil!!!

The Jedi: *say they probably shouldn’t adopt Anakin since their lifestyle wouldn’t be a good fit for him*

Anti-Jedi people/Stanakins: How dare they not immediately accept him into the Order!!! How dare they actually have criteria for someone joining like any other religion!!! How dare they have valid reasons for thinking that being a Jedi wouldn’t be a good fit for Anakin!!!

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And it’s usually the same people saying both arguments, depending on which one better fits their argument.

Like…pick a side, for the love of god.

Should the Jedi have not taken him in or should they have taken him in? You can’t have both.

And if you think they were wrong to adopt Anakin, why aren’t y’all getting pissed at Shmi? She’s the one that kept pressuring Qui-Gon to take Anakin and train him to become a Jedi!

And you can’t say- “well, she just wanted to get Anakin out of slavery, she can’t be blamed” -because Shmi could’ve asked Qui-Gon to do anything with Anakin! Take him to an adoption agency, make sure he finds a good home, get him away from Tatooine and make sure he’s safe, etc.

But she told him to take Anakin to the Order and train him to become a Jedi.

And, even if Shmi didn’t know of any other options for Anakin, did y’all want Qui-Gon to fucking lie to her? Say he’ll train Anakin and then just give him to an adoption agency while flipping Shmi the bird?

Or would you have rather Qui-Gon left him in slavery with Shmi? Because remember, Qui-Gon tried to free Shmi but Watto refused to sell her, he would only sell Anakin.

Trick question! Y’all would bash the Jedi no matter what they did!

Like, what was the other option that y’all apparently have in mind? Since you keep shit talking Qui-Gon/the Jedi for literally every decision they could’ve possibly made.

It just…the hypocrisy amazes me.

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2 years ago

On the morning of the knife fight I was scheduled to lose, I washed myself in the ritual soap and dressed in soft, loose fitting clothes as was the custom. I would not break my fast until after the deed was done.

My second ferried me to the entry point at the North, where I declared my secret name to the gatekeeper and several acolytes in quick succession. They prepared me for the inner sanctum, infusing my veins with salt water and drawing intricate sigils on my chest. I bid farewell to my second, who would keep vigil outside. I remember very little after this, but when I awoke, I felt a great weight had been lifted from my chest.

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Anyway, the top surgery yesterday went great!

1 year ago

MASTERLIST

(posts that just got added are in bold)

(note: I hate to DRASTICALLY shorten this because of tumblr’s 100 inline links limit. I’ll address it soon and probably make a few other, shorter masterposts for the posts I like but had to exclude)

METAS

Anakin and the Council/the Order:

Yoda loves Anakin, actually

The Council and Anakin bantering

Anakin calling Council members by their first names

The Order’s opinion of Anakin as Ahsoka’s Master

Anakin never gets punished by the Council in canon

Obi-Wan:

How Obi-Wan expresses emotions

Obi-Wan and Kids

Why Maul tries to get Obi-Wan to Fall

Obi-Wan(2022) #3: War meets Faith

Obi-Wan (2022) #4: Apocalypse Now, Obi-Wan’s resilience

Obi-Wan’s speech to Grievous – the Clones vs the Droid Army

What Obi-Wan’s reaction to Maul’s death says about him

The ANH Manga’s delightful portrayal of Obi-Wan

Obi-Wan in the Citadel arc (and why he’s not being callous)

Trauma doesn’t make you Fall

Yoda:

The Jedi in Yoda’s vision of a world at peace

How the Council handles Yoda’s s6 visions

Thoughts on “Do or Do Not, There is No Try” (ask)

Yoda’s empathy in the Prequels

A very wholesome frog troll grandpa

Yoda (2022) #1-3: Bree’s hero-worship

Kanan and Yoda in the Rebels Manga

Dooku:

Dooku and Yoda in the Immortality arc

Dooku and Ventress

Tales of the Jedi: Dooku and masochism

Dooku and Christopher Lee’s insight into his villainous characters

Why Dooku’s political idealism is bullshit (and why whatever genuine ideals he still holds are pure delusion)

“Love Encouraged”

Nearly every instance of physical touch between a PT-era Jedi and another sentient being. (New installation of the series: The Kenobi Show)

The Jedi Order:

A tour of Jedi views on blood ties and traditional families in LucasFilm canon

Other faiths within the Order

Hebrew meaning of the surviving Jedi’s names+ ‘Adi’ and ‘Dan’

Would Jedi have their own language? (ask)

Does TCW portray the Jedi positively? (ask)

Are Jedi ever allowed to see their birth families again? (ask)

Was Anakin forbidden from contacting his mom? (ask)

At what age would Jedi be allowed to leave the Order? (ask)

Were Jedi allowed to leave the Order during the war? (ask)

Parents giving their kids to the Jedi is on them, not on the Jedi (ask)

Are ‘lineages’ canon?

Are the Jedi a “minority”? (ask)

Are “frivolous uses of the Force” prohibited? (ask)

What it means to be a Jedi (ask)

Could Jedi get married? (ask)

Why Kanan and Hera’s relationship isn’t against the rules

Are Qui-Gon and Luke Gray Jedi? (ask)

Different adoption scenarios

Flipping the ‘Jedi meeting their bio family’ trope

Appreciation posts:

Paintings

Jedi Temple (tag)

Jedi Music (ask)

Telekinesis

Mace’s attitude towards Boba

Mace Windu and his troops

Shatterpoint and Stover’s writing of Mace

Deleted AotC scene – How Mace and Obi-Wan discuss Anakin

How well the Jedi know the Clones

Protective 212th feels’ thread with @cacodaemonia

“Gramps” and permissive parenting

Into the West/Order 66 (fanvid)

In defense of the Jedi:

The Clone Wars and Shatterpoint thoroughly debunk every single aspect of the Children of the Force comic (or why calling the Jedi chield-thieves is beyond laughable) (ask)

The Siege of Mandalore diatribe

Why the Council couldn’t have prevented Order 66

10000 Jedi isn’t a lot

The Jedi aren’t corrupt – and slavery in the Galaxy isn’t their fault + Slavery in the Galaxy – Padmé and the Jedi

How Prosset Dibs’ opinions of the Council don’t hold up

“Jedi friendly” Council-bashing isn’t a thing

The flaws of the Order(ask) + Do you have criticisms of the Jedi Order? (ask)

The Jedi Code and Compassion (Ki-Adi-Mundi thread)

Mace Windu’s Compassion (ask)

The Plo Koon fandom double standard:

Dealing with Boba

Dealing with Anakin

The question of eugenics in SW (ask)

Are the Padawans child soldiers? (ask)

War crimes against robots aren’t a thing

Digging into canon:

What “Canon” means to me (ask)

‘The Box’ is Naboo

Anakin’s Terrifying Power Level (TCW s07x09)

The Dark Side and Shitty Hair

The ‘Baby Ludi’ Story (and why it doesn’t mean what it seems to mean)

What the CIS is all about (money. obviously money.)

Living Force, Cosmic Force, Unifying Force (canon vs legends vs fanon) (ask)

Attachment vs love (ask) + Are attachment and possession the same thing? (ask)

What the Jedi and the Clones actually were to each other (ask)

Clone culture - Fanon vs Legends vs Canon

Hondo’s introduction and why he’s far from an idiot)

Zeb and Kanan as genocide survivors

Why would Sidious tell Vader to ‘search his feelings’?(ask)​

The Great Darksaber Retcon (tag)

The Satine posts:

Satine’s attitude towards other Mandos

Why there’s no evidence for Satine suppressing Mandalorian heritage

Satine’s compromises and accommodations (ask)

Shmi’s agency:

Did she even want to leave Tatooine?

Cliegg and Shmi’s marriage

Mortis still makes sense regarding what “Balance” means

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1 year ago
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1 year ago
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1 year ago

you ever think about how Ezra is now the same age Kanan was in season one? haha yeah me neither...

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3 years ago

Mandalorian Armor, a simple guide

Oh dear. Several months late, but here we go. This will be a broad term overview of mando armor in canon at the moment, not an exhaustive list. Feel free to skip “materials & history” if you’d just like some more concrete guidelines and refs! 

(Remember to click on the images for a better look!)

Material & History

A Small Intro Course

Mandalorian armor is supposed to be made out of beskar, an alloy (and yes all beskar is an alloy in disney canon (at least as of May 2021), like steel for example. Yes even “pure” beskar). The secrets of how to make it is limited to the Mandalorians, and the materials used to make it are most likely limited to Mandalore or the Mandalore system. It’s been in confirmed use as an armor material for at least 900 years & can take straight blaster bolts or hold off the circulating energy blade of a lightsaber for short periods of time, possibly until the beskar heats up enough to loose its integrity, but the heat would most likely cause serious damage to the wearers body before that.

Beskar armor is most often inherited, passed from generation to generation and reforged to suit the current wearers needs. It’s seen as passing down the history, the battles and the will of those who have worn it before and making it your own. However the material is rare, possibly because the mines have run dry ages ago (old EU), or because war and/or the New Mandalorians stopping production. The Empire interfering by taking over Mandalore and trying to get their hands on as much beskar as possibly and then later “glassing” the planet while hunting its only known creators surely did not help either, in any case.

This means that not all Mandalorians had access to the material, or at least large enough amounts to make a full suit of armor. This lead to the make of “impure” beskar that can take less of a brunt & armor made of other metals such as durasteel. This is most likely what makes up the majority of Din’s kit, beyond the helmet and possibly the chest piece, when he’s introduced in S1 and he still wears pieces that might be one of these materials as of Season 2. 

Characters like Sabine Wren, Bo-Katan Kryze and Boba Fett all inherited their armor from their aliit  (clan/family) through several generations and it’s most likely already pure beskar based on its age and how it reacts to blasterfire.

The armor is most often painted and there are various designs and colors that indicate personality, achievements or allegiances, but that would have to be another post. (Would anyone like a post on Mandalorian armor fashion? Because I have thoughts)

Helmet

Let’s start from the top. The helmet, aka the bucket. The buy’ce.

In the “modern” era it’s usually a helmet with a rounded top and some kind of cheek indents. It has a T (or occasionally closer to a Y) shaped visor that obscures the wearers face. It also contains a large amount of technology that allows for various visual filters, binoculars, built in comms and audio enhancers (allowing for near perfect 360° hearing in the old EU, as possibly shown by Din Djarin in the new), among other things. The earcaps seen on most modern styles of helmet allows for various specialized attachments, like rangefinders.

The styles of the helmets vary between clans and eras, but there’s a few distinct modern bases that are pretty easy to identify as Mandalorian and worn by all major Mandalorian characters. 

The Boba Fett, based on the original helmet as seen in the OT, and worn by basically every male character with various types of cheek indents, ridges and the like. Some are thinner or longer, but the base of the design is still very clearly the OG Boba Fett helmet. T visor, sharp slope indent that takes up the entire cheek, long ear caps & a brow ridge.

Visual Reference

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The Nite Owl, based on the helmet worn by Bo-Katan and the Nite Owls in TCW. It has a cat eyed Y visor and a more of a cut out cheek indent style, or simply a less severe smaller curve under the visor ridge (the area painted red on Boba Fett’s helmet). 

Visual Reference

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The Kast, is the rarest so far only seen on Rook Kast & the Maul-aligned female Mandalorians. It slopes slightly inwards below the uniquely shaped T visor and has no ear caps.

Visual References

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And finally, some mandalorian helmets with slightly more unique shapes and/or shape combinations that put them outside the general easy to identify pile.

From left to right, The Armorer, Paz Vizsla, Pre Vizsla and Fenn Rau:

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Chest, Neck, Back & Shoulders

As with everything else, there are various styles for these pieces of armor, but here are some basics.

Breastplate

Most commonly visibly segmented into three big parts, two on the chest and one below, with a small diamond shaped heart piece in the middle. The heart piece design can also been seen on Mandalorian clothing and architecture. In The Mandalorian these parts are generally attached together to give the armor a more solid look, but they are still distinguishable. Before the fall of the empire several female mandos favoured a more solid two part design that interlocked with their neck piece and had a thin rectangular bar instead of a classic heart piece. During the clone wars women of the faction supporting Maul (mostly clan Kast and clan Saxon) used a semi-connected two part design with six smaller pieces trailing down the stomach, three on each side. There are also various other designs with solid one part chest pieces, but most at least have a variation of the heart piece in the middle, as seen on Paz Vizsla. 

The chest piece usually does not go below the navel, for bending over reasons.

Neckplate

Either two pieces on the side of the neck, or a longer single piece that goes in front of the neck & sits over the collarbones. Both of these variations are usually semi connected to, or line up with where the backplate ends.

Shoulders

Bell type, like Din Djarin & Axe Woves wear. The Classic, aka the style worn by Boba Fett, Ursa Wren & most grunts. And finally a slightly rounded middle ground, smaller than the Bell but sits over the shoulder and is often favored by female characters like Bo-Katan, female Mauldalorians & Sabine Wren.

Backplate

Usually as long as the chest piece, used to protect the back and to mount jetpacks, and other useful things, on.

Jetpack

Technically not a piece of armor, but sometimes armored. Comes in various sizes and styles.

Visual References

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Vambraces & Handplates

Vambraces

Both forearm protection and weapons. Developed to give a Mandalorian that extra edge when fighting stronger opponents. To that goal, they’re often fitted with various attachments such as flamethrowers, retractable blades, shield emitters, repulsors, grappling lines, magnets, missiles and various types of darts, including the whistling birds seen in The Mandalorian.

Handplates

It’s a plate that goes on your hand. Nothing more, nothing less. Can of course be fitted with various other weapons, as long as they fit.

Visual References

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The Codpiece, Buttplate & Hip Plates

Ah yes. Well.

All pieces are usually worn tucked underneath and/or attached to the waist sash/girth belt/belt.

Codpiece

Look, it’s a codpiece. It’s there to protect your sensitive parts. There are less bulky variations for people who can do without the extra space. Those are often segmented. Some wear more of a lower stomach plate. Others don’t bother, or only wear theirs when they might need it since I imagine it can be a bit uncomfortable to wear day to day.

Buttplate

It’s a plate that goes over your butt. And I mean just above, not on. Din has one, Boba has one. It’s a thing. Why? Because bruising you tailbone hurts like hell.

Hip Plates

They’re plates that go on your hips. Only confirmed sighting has been on Din, but we’ve also got some good shots of them because of this so I put them in anyway.

Visual References

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Thighs, Knees, Shins, Ankles & Feet

Varies from completely covered to almost no armor at all. On one end you’ve got Jango Fett, and on the other you’ve got Boba Fett. Ironic, in a way.

Thigh plates

Generally sit either on the front of the thigh or on the outer sides. The outward style thigh plates are more form fitting and allow for holsters to be mounted directly onto the plate, this was popular during the Clone Wars era. The front facing plates are often different sizes, possibly depending on your dominant hand/how you prefer to hold your weapon of choice.

Knee armor/pads

For knee protection, unless you’re like Boba Fett, then they’re also dart launchers. In the old EU the darts were laced with neurotoxin, but that seems to have been removed for new canon. Sit nebulously in the knee region.

Shin, Ankle and/or Boot plates

Over your shins, ankles and feet, for all your literal ass kicking needs. Comes in various types including but not limited to: boot caps, ankle plates, shin guards and of course full on greaves.

Visual References

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So there you have it! A broad overview of Mandalorian armor. This has been in my drafts for months at this point so I’m not going to go over this again so you’ll have to excuse any weird phrasing or misspelt words. And how messy the visual ref sheets got. (I’m also considering putting together something for different eras & allegiances based on design, accessories, paintjobs, etc, but that will have to be another day.)

3 years ago
HAPPY MAY THE 4TH!  ✨ TRUST ONLY IN THE FORCE | Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order
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3 years ago
I’m Just Going To Leave This Here…

I’m just going to leave this here…

1 month ago

Buck in a few episodes when, it turns out, he is in love with Eddie:

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Maddie, i'm sure:

Buck In A Few Episodes When, It Turns Out, He Is In Love With Eddie:
1 year ago

People assume Zuko and Katara are dating: BORING

People assume Sokka and Aang are dating: YEAH

Like imagine a Minister or politician who’s obviously not well aware of current affairs of who is dating who goes up to Sokka and asks “Are you the Avatar’s Water Tribe lover?” And Sokka who has nothing better to do pauses for a moment and then casually shrugs “Yeah sure, why not?” And now he’s in an elaborated story that he pulls Aang into and he’ll be DAMNED if he has to get a divorce before the age of 25. Aang is so ready to go along with the bit but the glares Zuko and Katara throw at them definitely eats at him.


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