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gonna be honest, seeing Chishiya in a collar got me sweating

OUR BOY IS BACK

this is a rant about how they completely fucked up chishiya’s character

major spoilers for season 2 and the manga

first of all, i’m not entirely upset about how they put chishiya in the jack of hearts game even though no main character’s were supposed to be in there. it makes sense that the writers would do that because having a game consist of all new characters, even though they are interesting characters, it may not have come across very well.

it was fun to see how chishiya’s brain worked for that game and i loved that it gave him a lot more screen time, which was desperately needed.

now, i’ve always been a little peeved about how they made chishiya more in tune with his emotions, in the manga he is apathetic and he has no positive feelings towards any of the characters. in the show he was caring towards kuina and kuina even asked about him numerous times, but in the manga she very much disliked him because of him selfish and manipulative ways.

it would have been fine if that was the only thing they changed about his character, but they completely made up a backstory for him, it made me so angry that they left out the most important part of him.

his original backstory started off with showing the lack of parental love that he grew up with and that he never understood the human heart and that he had no plans to do so. his father worked in the medical field which is why chishiya became A MEDICAL STUDENT, not an actual doctor or whatever the fuck they made him in the show. manga chishiya was working in the hospital on what i assume was an internship, and the best scene was when a dying old man gave him a letter to give to a family member and chishiya said that he would but when chishiya left the room he threw the letter away because he doesn’t care for other people.

the backstory change was completely unnecessary and the new one didn’t really add anything of value. i assume they did it because it made him relate to kuzuryu which resulted in a change of heart in chishiya, but in the manga chishiya still had a change in heart with his original backstory.

also they didn’t make him smile that big’ol smile he had when he got shot. the only reason that chishiya went to talk to arisu was because the words of kuzuryu made him rethink himself and he actually wanted to talk to someone for a change.

i am really happy that they didn’t change the confrontation between him, arisu, and niragi, i’m also glad that they still put chishiya and niragi in the same hosptial room because that shit’s hilarious.

over all i did enjoy the season and i understand that following the manga exactly is boring. in fact i enjoyed some of the switch ups that did happen, but i just don’t understand why they felt the need to change the most important aspects of chishiya.

Detective arisu detective arisu detective arisu.

Annoyed grumpy partner detectives arisu and chishiya assigned to work a case together and eventually fall in love vire the power of friendship

Head empty just arisu getting fucjing smashed at a bar and being an annoying person who climbs on a table but it being one of those sticky shitty bar tables so it fucjing topples over and arisu crashes to the floor in pain covered in beer.

Kuina and usagi by the bar recording him cuss they know it’s gonna be fucking helarious tomorrow and chishiya and pissed screaming at arisu for spilling his drink again

Lowkey wanna write a fic where like Chishiya knows magic tricks and either uses them to flirt continuously with Arisu OR uses them to like trick people into giving him their cards (including hatter and or Aguni).  except I don't write so this shall forever stay a forgotten thought never expanded upon lmao 

Chishiya flirting: ya know from all the games you’ve won your brain must be extra wrinkly. Wink

Arisu:…. Thank you. Your brain would also be wrinkly and most likely a fantastic display in a jar

Kuina: this bitch is never gonna get laid Jesus fuck

Usagi: hang on I think Arisu is actually catching on that it’s flirting holy shit

Arisus: talking to a random guy who imagines it’s you and him in fury porn ain’t that bad right? Right?

Usagi: love we’ve talked about this. Stop talking to weird men on the internet

Chishiya: unless your getting money for feet pics

Usagi: not helping you stupid mother fucker

Chishiya can play the french horn and can play it incredibly and definitely got dared to try seduce the game masters by playing it ‘sexily’ by kuina

So I remembered frozen exists and now can only picture Arisu passionately singing love is an open door with chishiya (arisu is clearly Anna and chishiya is…. Hans? What the fuck is that ginger bastards name). Oh and kuina is clearly going to be forced (and low-key enjoy) singing let it go. Usagi sung all of christoffs lines (low-key forgot the boys names ) and then idk hatter sung Olaf’s summer cuss honestly in a frozen au hatter would be olaf.

Last boss seems like the kinda guy to be obsessed with smoking meat. Dude probably spends his time either gathering meat and wood and seeing how different wood affect the taste and shit.

Sometimes I guess he hands them out for others to taste. And so I propose: kuina and last boss bonding over meat and sometimes they invite Arisus and chishiya to taste it but both have the taste pallets of a Labrador. That is to say they couldn’t give a crap if it’s the most fine dining food ever made or actual crap, they will wolf it down in 10 seconds flat

what types on fandoms characters write fanfics for except I take it off fandoms ive written for within my life.  Arisu: Final fantasy Usagi: Voltron  Kuina: Disney channel movies (specifically camp rock and lemonade mouth) Chishiya: paradise lost  Aguni: hamlet, Macbeth and Romeo and Juliet. man likes his Shakespeare  Hatter: mlp and paradise lost Niragi: mlp but the brony kind (I have not written this however it fits him) Karube: the illiad. oh and stardew valley chouta: pokemon

you know the cats vs dogs movie from like 2001? the one where the cats/dogs are in a super high tech war without their owners knowing and there's one REALLY fluffy white cat that gave me nightmares that I was gonna wake up with it suffocating me? yeah anyway all I can think about is a Chishiya (the cats duh) vs Arisu (the dogs. duh) war with like Hatter (Arisus side) and Aguni ( chishiyas side) as their owners (not kinky it just sounds weird but I swear context please context).  honestly idk if this post makes sense I just wanted to talk about this movie because I rembered it from having a nightmare of that one stupid fucking murderous evil cat again. that, that cat is MY enemy. 

I want one scene where the group gets right proper startled the fuck outa their skin. and all you have is Arisu jumping into Chishiyas arms. Who obviously jumped into Kuinas arms. Who obviously jumped into Usagis arms. So now you have a wabbly kneed Usagi awkwardly holding up the three of them up as the thing that scared them stares shocked because last it checked this wasn't fucking scooby doo 

Chishiya  has a very ordered and intensive chart ranking every diseases  known to man in order of how much he  likes their names likes what they do the the body likes how they spread  likes how they formed (if known) likes their cure whenever people find it their either horrified, impressed or scared he's planning to create the ultimate bioweapon. 

Arisu: so yeah in ancient greece and Rome they’d read the entrails of thier blood sacrifice to predict the future

Usagi: facinating 

Chishiya: I wonder what my guts would predict Arisu: I would prefer not to see your guts? please and thank you<3 

Chishiya: just for that heart Kuina come chop me open your gonna read the future 

I haven't read the series nor learnt anything about the rest of it as I’m waiting till their either translated to English or the show comes out so I can have my heart ripped to shreds completely virgin to what the series holds but I’m just so interested in the cards. I mean there's 52 normal playing cards but there's also 2 jokers building it up to 54 cards. Now I know logically the show isn't going to use the joker cards but they are rather interesting  I mean when they were first written into the rule book (although they had existed long before that) their status was actually above all the cards. obviously now its used in other contexts depending on the game you play (example it may be used to skip a players turn, it may also be the lowest ranking card or some other ability.). Its main purpose throughout is to be a wild card.  obviously all the important characters relate to a Alice in wonderland character- which ones are somewhat up to interpretation since how one reads Alice in wonderland and also how one interprets the characters motives of Alice in borderland varies vastly. But I mean come on the cards are such an integral part of the series- as well as Alice in borderland- so it only makes sense for the characters to relate to the cards as well.  I could probably rant about the characters and their cards, how perhaps their card are the ones we first meet them in, or the ones they die in, maybe the ones they held the most impact on. But then there's certain characters that we meet that do hold enough purpose in the show to be memorable yet either don't fit any of those descriptions or meet multiple. Perhaps its only the face cards- the jack, queen, king and ace- that hold characters dear to them. I mean Mira is the red queen herself no? in both characterisation and card references and yet that seems to easy. For it to only be the face cards when we meet so many influential characters.  I mean heck playing cards I’d find myself winning ( or rather losing since I always guessed wrong and would win to many games) on something as stupid as the 2 of trumps. So its not like the normal cards are something to scoff at- used correctly and their more useful then the ace for crying out loud.  But I'm getting off track, the most obvious character for the Joker would be hatter, I mean dudes insane and basically made for the role. But I mean, come on, the even more obvious choice is Arisu. Dudes build to be a wild card. From a nothing in the real world,  a shut in who plays games all day. Yet he seems to be one of the best game players in the series for things like hearts and Diamonds. his innocents, ability to make characters love him or feel sympathy, quick wit and much more make him stupidly good at the two heart games we’ve seen in the show so far. He’s a wild card within the universe. A trump card.  but I mean theres two jokers in most decks. A red and a black one. balance and all that. If we go with Hatter being the joker then obviously its Aguni. but then I didnt go for hatter so fuck that. I think Chishiya would be the other joker. Their both working for the same thing, both playing off each other in diffrent ways and both great at the same games ( although both will deny being good at heart games). In the end I could only ever see those two ‘beating’ borderland. how they’d do it would be diffrent but they’d do it together or not. 

their the trump cards in the deck that is borderland. or maybe I’m really fucking sleepdeprived and lowkey havent had a coherent thought in like 2 weeks and am trying not to post about Hatter being a furry. its probally that one.   eitehr way I want a joker game and I want it to be heart breaking. 

I like the idea that Chishiya, Kuina , Usagi and Arisu all travelled together after the destruction of the beach and  they met in like the weird control room. and obviously their going to be on the move a lot, either trying to out run old beach members who are pissed because Chisiya was like a high raking member and Arisu was probably seen with the official people ( I forgot their names shhh). Also having to find new food/medical supplies and also just following games and shit. now most transports don't work (other than really old bikes and stuff as we know from that one lowkey dull running game but the odds of finding enough shit for that is hard) so their probably going to use bikes. but oh no there's a problem. Chishiya and Arisu cant ride a bike. they just never learnt because, and I mean really, look at the two of them. do they look like the kind of people that have the physical prowess to ride a bike? no. no they don't.  so now they have to sit on the back on Kuina and Usagi's bikes when ever they go, either sitting in one of those little toddler baby seat things OR standing on the like back wheel axle thing.  

Arisu: even at the age of near 19 I still find nothing more I’d enjoy than a crisp glass of apple juice. Well other than college tuition. I guess that’d be great

Usagi: you didn't even go to college? 

Arisu: I feel the debt in spirit 

chishiya: And I feel it for real now shh 

Assigning characters to ways my friends have responded to me asked “how would you dispose of a body” except they probably wont work and the characters know it. oh and I only have 5 friends  Arisu: if you had to hide a body how would you do it Chishiya: chop it up and put it in a stew, use as fertilizer Chishiya : also paint the cheek bones for an art project Arisu: love that anything else Chishiya: put the intestines and other weird thingies with bags of old fish, throw it in your next for neighbours pool when their out ~ Arisu: how would you dispose of a body Usagi: probably acid Arisu: Interesting...any specific acid or.. Usagi: boric? Arisu: how would you dispose of a body tatta: find a fresh grave and burry it there Tatta: people would suspect it but I think its fun all the same. Maybe switch out the body's before hand instead Arisu: how would you dispose of a body Kuina: either burn it and say it’s a family members ashes to spread across the sea or plant it under a state flower since they wouldn’t be able to dig it up Arisu: how would dispose of a body  Karube: what have you done  Arisu: nothing just how would you do it? Shibuki : Probs in water Chouta: But you have to cut the organs first so they don’t fill w air Arisu: surprised you didn't say acid  Karube:  Acids dont break down organic material very well anyways Arisu: oh Arisu: how would you dispose of a dead body Niragi: in ya tum tum  Arisu: of course what else did I expect 

death note au where Light is chishiya and L is Arisu except I never finished Death note and so believe they like idk paired up and took over the world or what ever. 

random head cannons I have that mean nothing in cannon  Arisu is a furry and his fursona is a wolf hybrid thing. idfk I'm not a furry  Kuina was a discord kitten and got so much money of that shit.  Chishiya only writes using quills and ink because he feels fancy as fuck using them and they also make fantastic weapons  you know how in like 2015 (?) monster was like the chad drink that all assholes chugged like it was water? yeah honestly I see Karube being that person with like a can, a monster shirt, shoes custom designed for monster like the shebang.  chouta can recite any Shakespeare play of the top of his head. he has no recollection of when he learnt them let alone ever had a reason to learn them but he can do it.  Usagi slammed her hand in a car door once and had her entire right hand nails essentially fall off as a child  Last boss was that one kid who when the got braces thought “ahhh getting reds gonna be rad” and then had to walk around for like 3 months looking like his gums had been stabbed my something metal and were now bleeding constantly 

my friend got mad that I've posted so many of our ‘biblical quotes’ so uhhh here’s something else  aib au where blah blah ya heard it before BUT THERES A DIFFRENCE (shocker).  Chishiya is British. Duel citizenship and all that ya know? grew up there as a kid then moved with his parents blah blah that's boring here's why I really sad this:  Imagine  Chishiya  shouting at Niragi for something and he just starts saying shit like wanker. also yes I know a lot of phrases and insults don't translate over however for the sake of my funny idea believe it does :)  Just  Chishiya shouting “RIGHT NOW, HERES THE THING YOU TWAT THIS AINT SOMETING WE CAN  GO ALL WILLY NILLY ON, WHAT ARE YOU? SOME TOSSING WANKER WHOS TO BLOODY BUSY TRYNA SHAG YA OWN REFLECTION TO SEE THE FLIPPING CRISES INFRONT OF YER? JESUS SON OF MARY WHAT IS WITH YOUR FUCK-FACES”. and scene.  

The characters in solitary confinement are honestly SO underrated 💔

:3

(btw, sorry I haven’t posted in a few days 😞)

“Define dysfunctional family”

Me 😭:

Chishiya is that one doctor who if during a flight there is a call "is there is a doctor available?" He just goes back to sleep/read/listen to music.

same energy

"So tell me then, how will it be?"

Inspired by that one trend of course. Ummmm nothing much to say except I love them sm😓 They're my favorites and I hope they don't die yes👅 ok back into my hole!

After finishing the second season yesterday and ruminating a bit about it, I can confidently say I agree.

I’m still sad that manga Chishiya will only be a part of manga Chishiya and with that have less of an audience but I can also see the qualities of the LA version.

I think I was and am just sad that a character I adore was never shown in the end. By that I mean we only got a part of manga Chishiyas story. I was looking forward to the Mona Lisa scene and kuzuryu pressing both 0 and 1. I have something to say to Kuzuryu too an actual complaint of the LA.

Perhaps I was bitter- no I am probably bitter about it. I wanted to see those beautiful scenes in another medium. So it makes sense why I was so upset. I do hope it will be animated one day. What id give to heat a lovely soundtrack combined with rain sounds as Chishiya stands in-front of the ♢king entrance. I truly hope it will be made…

I musst seem oddly passionate about this story. I can’t help it though, it’s precious to me. I really am sad it wasn’t told in full- guess that’s just the pain one needs to expect when something gets adapted. Most times they change at least something anyway.

No, the Netflix live action (adaptation) doesn't butcher Chishiya's backstory. The two different backstories are relevant in explaining apathy.

(And as a manga reader who respects the mangaka (edit: and the scriptwriters), I see Live Action Chishiya and Manga Chishiya as two separate yet equally cool characters).

Apathy is rooted from a damaging childhood and a traumatizing adulthood.

This apathy is the reason why both Manga Chishiya and Live Action Chishiya seemed "unbothered", when they were actually almost mentally numb.

For apathy to start (with no neurological causes), one must be either an abused kid, or a traumatized and burned out adult, or both.

The emotional abuse that Manga Chishiya had to endure was killing him on the inside. So much that he chose medicine out of spite (although he said otherwise), and deteriorated.

While we don't know what made Live Action Chishiya chose medicine, the fact remains that he didn't do anything to save his patients from being manslaughtered and let it slide as an everyday decision.

Aren't these two the cases of apathy? Aren't these two backstories enough to explain that both Chishiyas are morally complicated?

No? Then let me explain more.

The post-Borderland consequences of the two different backstories matter in different ways for Chishiya.

Manga Chishiya would have to heal his inner wounded child and make up for his immoral act against his dying patient (the letter throwing), and for disregarding life (his and others). Maybe he would quit medicine as he rediscovers himself. Maybe he would be a better med student and then doctor. Maybe he would cut ties with his family. I don't know.

Meanwhile, Live Action Chishiya would have to come to terms with the fact that he was a gaslit, powerless adult who conspired with criminals in a series of manslaughter. Maybe he'd be a whistleblower. Possibly jailed. Made an outcast. Hated by the public and the patients. Or, he could become an anonymous whistleblower while recovering. Again, I don't know.

And the point is they both matter.

Also, no, the live action doesn't try to "make Chishiya more palatable to the public" as accused by some fellow manga readers, imho.

Because even in real life, complicit whistleblowers are shunned. Let alone a criminal. And what Chishiya did in the live action, no matter how decent a doctor he might've seemed at the start, was immoral and criminal.

So how can you call Live Action Chishiya "more morally palatable", when he did worse things than Manga Chishiya?

Instead of chasing palatability, the live action inserts an ongoing social problem into the character. There's a current debate in the ethics, medical and social research circles (for example in Germany) whether manipulation of organ transplant waitlist is considered manslaughter or organizational deviance. People actually die while waiting for their organ transplants, so when the waitlist is manipulated, isn't that a crime? I'm thankful that the show attached this complicated real time issue to Chishiya.

Child abuse and its long-lasting effects on children (the case of Manga Chishiya) will always be relevant. But so will the moral weight of taking lives (the case of Live Action Chishiya).

Last but not least, at the end of the day, didn't both Manga Chishiya and Live Action Chishiya want to change? Didn't they both save an innocent life? Why must it matter how they started out as long as they both emerged in the light?

Thanking user @kinnsporsche for their post.

Edited for grammatical reasons, clarity and more arguments.