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"win a MMORPG" is from when my brother was showing me the Sword Art Online Abridged series. Apparently, everyone is trapped in the video game until someone 'wins' and the crowd of players were like "??? My evil dude, do you even know what this game IS??? There is no winning."
I loved your tags, btw. And yes, I imagine Dick would make a point to check in with Tim about him and his friends, and maybe put out some feelers to the adults in the other kids' lives to check in.
I think Tim and Dick would both want to keep a familial relationship with each other and they'd both be the type to put in the effort. It wouldn't be the same relationship, but that's the thing! That's normal! Sibling relationships change as people grow up and no longer live so closely together. Like everything else in life, it takes work.
I wonder how much of the Young Justice run files would Dick have had access to at the time they were occurring? Does he know about Gun Batman, Santa's death, and that time Empress killed Jason Todd, or did Tim just file that paperwork and never bring it up? Maybe Young Justice in general is a sore point between Tim and Dick because it was YJ's inexperience that got Donna killed.
I fully believe in the Suicide Pact tho. If one of them can't be talked down, or brought back to sanity, or contained from becoming their worst nightmares, the other three will take them out and it will destroy them all to do it. "If your last act is for us to have your blood on our hands, then your hands will be just as bloody. We go together, bitches. Mutual assured destruction."
I don't remember whether canon revealed Tim's specific Hit List contingencies or not, I lost that comic book awhile ago.
So I'd like to make shit up and invite people to add to the list. I've said before that I like to imagine that Damian just found the Hit List file and saw himself and immediately went to Nightwing, and I think it'd be funny if the Hit List was actually either A) Tim's customized playlists for everyone or B) the stupidest plans that might work as a mockery of Batman's contingency list.
In this episode I want to focus on option B, what would be on the Stupid Plans List if someone goes evil.
Damian - erase his Cheese Viking saves. Tell him his sketches of Batman are technically furry art. Buy him Robux???
Dick - lead him to Gotham zoo, get him to the elephants. Strategically leave powdered sedatives on ground, hope he licks? Dress as Jaybin, talk him down as hallucination.
Jason - just cut my own throat this time fuck.
Bruce - call Clark. Call Diana.
Cass - aw shit here we go again
Steph - Join. As a treat.
Cassie, Kon, Bart - all else fails, Core Four Suicide Pact 👍
Ra's - tell him I'll be his heir if he wins an MMORPG of my choice. Maybe he'll forget to Lazarus bathe?
Love that character growth~
And! Also! The maturity of recognizing that whether or not you are personally interested in a thing does not make it anymore valid or invalid to anyone else.
I probably most definitely didn't word that right.
Friends don't need to share 100% the same interests and opinions to be friends. That follows with every relationship in life and it's just such a good way to learn new things about the world and yourself.
Though Tim does have a point: do not fall so far into obsession that you try to assassinate the president to impress the actress you've been stalking and instead murder a press secretary.
Tim Drake: "#1 Conspiracy Theorist Hater"
(Robin 1993)
Also Tim Drake: Marries Dates a conspiracy theorist.
(Tim Drake: Robin, #1)
I say he should call himself the Coot, just to be extra fucking petty about how many times he's had to deal with mind games and intellectual-type villains.
Also, they are occasional nest parasite water birds with red eyes and black heads who are known to starve their weaker cooties of they don't kill them outright. And they look like ducks but they aren't ducks.
Hmmm hero with a habit of late nights, with a cowl and black hair who lives(d) on a houseboat. One who is known for looking like someone he's not or having imposter syndrome in general.
I'm just sayin'!
"Tim's next hero name should be (insert basic ahh bird name)!"
Incorrect, I believe it should either be a reference to a detective novel or some really weird/ less heard of/ complicated bird name.
"The Babbler"
"Slaty Thrush"
"Night Owl" would actually be cool, ngl...
"Sunbird"
"Crake"
"Eagle Owl"
"Red Rumped Swallow"
"American Pipit"
"Azure Dollarbird"
"Blood Pheasant"
"Barking Owl"
I think you get it.
You know what? I love this. I hope that the writers put that amount of thought into the show and the characters.
It also occurs to me quite suddenly that a future Batman writer is going to have Batwheels as their first introduction to the characters. That is going to be interesting...
Well, I didn't expect Batwheels to reveal that Penguin is apparently a singer. Or that he got music lessons as a kid and has this weird proclivity for liking music. But I guess it makes sense. It's a fun thing for the kids, but it also makes some sense for The Penguin. For one thing, music is sometimes seen as an upper class thing. Look at opera and everything. But also: a lot of Penguin's actors have been singers. Paul Williams had a whole career in that. Jess Harnell and Tom Kenny don't do music for a living, but they can sing if a show requires them to, Danny DeVito did a song for Disney's Hercules, etc. So it makes some small amount of sense, I suppose.
The thing my mind keeps going back to is when Steph is at the very start of her Robin training... And Bruce and Pennyworth just give her one of Tim's uniforms to train in.
And it's fucking uncomfortable for her because she is a physically different person. She can't move in the damn thing without something tearing, her getting a wedgie, or her getting winded because her boobs are so compressed! And yet, Bruce and Pennyworth make such a big deal about how they guess they'll have to get her a uniform that fits.
Even getting part of the cave sectioned off so that she can change in private is shown as something she feels she had to earn.
It was so frustrating to read that whole damn arc.
I'm not going to claim Steph was perfect or that every decision she made was right, but it was so clear that she wasn't being supported like she should have been.
Every so often, DC is reminded by Steph fans that War Games is a thing that happened and that its many injustices against her and her fans still need to be addressed and every so often, DC responds with a comic that says "Bruce was right to manipulate and fire her and she deserved to be tortured and killed"
Hello, yes, can I get uhhhh an Outsiders-View fic of the general Crime Alley population slowly gaining respect for the weird yellow-haired kid who's apparently banging Red Robin into a new state of existence?
No one knows exactly who he is, but whenever they see him around they spread the word to stay away from dark alleys. There are some sights goons just don't want to risk seeing; Red Hood might take your eyes for it or something.
More freaky timbern?
Sigh... Do your parents not feed you? Guess I'll have to U_U
SEXUAL CONTENT AHEAD!!!
Bernard and Tim, making out in the corner of a sofa:
Dick, walking in: Hey T... REALLY!? IN THE FAMILY SITTING ROOM!?
Tim, panting as they break for air: Sorry, uno got intense.
Dick: This happened because of an uno game?
Bernard: We'll use any excuse, really.
—
Tim, slipping inside quietly:
Bernard, flicking on the lights: Are you injured?
Tim: No—
Bernard, instantly tackling him to the nearest flat surface to kiss him:
Tim: ?! Woah! Woah, you good? Are you okay?
Bernard: Yeah just really horny, your a#& looks great by the way.
Tim: Oh, okay—
Bernard: Sex?
Tim: Sex. Yeah. Continue.
—
Tam: You never looked at me like that when we dated.
Tim: You walked in on Bernard and I having sex in my office?
Tam: My point stands.
—
Tim, post getting his back blown out: . . . Is it psychological torture to eat a fish in front of a fish?
Bernard, just got done cleaning up: Fish are dumb.
—
Tim, cursing in French mid sex:
Bernard: Oh, that's hot.
—
Jason: Why are you in Crime Alley talkin' to the workin' ladies??
Bernard: I like to ask for tips.
Jason: . . . What?
Bernard: We exchange them, actually.
Jason: . . . YOU ASK THEM HOW TO PLEASURE MY LITTLE BROTHER!?
Bernard: They don't go around telling anyone. We talk politics, too, sometimes.
Jason: You're a weird little man.
Bernard: This little man f-#%$s your little brother!
Jason: i. . . y'know what? I'm with Dick now, STAY AWAY FROM MY BROTHER, FREAK!
Bernard: MAKE ME!
Jason, pulling out a gun:
Bernard, already running: Poor choice of words!
—
Bernard, sending a photo to the Young Justice group chat of him next to an unconscious, shirtless Tim with the caption "Guess what we just did!":
Kon, immediately replying: Twister.
Bart: Baking.
Cassie: Sex.
Bernard: Actually he got stabbed in the abdomen, he taught me how to do stitches! #CoupleGoals
—
Tim: Ugh, I think I have internal bruising...
Jason: Pfft, get your a#& kicked?
Tim: No, pounded.
Jason:
Tim:
Jason:
Tim:
Jason:
Tim: Karma for what happened at Titans Tower.
Jason:
—
Cass: I fear pregnancy, the loss of autonomy, control of my life? It scares me, the thought...
Tim: Damn, after Bern and I have unsafe sex I usually just pray to Cassie's aunts and uncles and list off the reasons I'd be a terrible parent.
—
Tim: We can either have sex or play Minecraft.
Bernard: . . . This is the hardest decision I've ever had to make.
Tim:
—
Tim, in his Red Robin uniform, straddling Bernard's lap and making out with him in an alleyway:
Bernard, pulling his hair:
Tim: Ugh... We should really stop.
Bernard: Mm, why, love dove? Don't need to if you feel good...
Tim: If we get caught Batman might actually kill you...
Bernard: I'd die a happy man~~
Barbara: Red Robin, you never turned your comm off.
Tim:
Barbara: I turned it off for you when Bernard started talking dirty to you, but you've traumatized Robin, and Batman is on his way.
Bernard: . . Tim?
Tim: F&#$!
—
@malfiora found it for me so I'm gonna share it! I genuinely love this so much, it's such a Thing that would become part of Gotham's cultural zeitgeist.
Imagine the first time each of them heard some kids singing this?! Imagine if it's a cryptid Batfamily au and the song breaks containment before the other heroes know them? So much possibility, so much potential, I love it.
Listen... All I know is that the kids I babysit were singing that one Gummy Bear song and next thing I knew my brain made a parody
If you have written a Batman story that you think is actually legit, go ahead and submit that to DC. They are in the business of selling stories and they've made plenty of crazy little one-shots.
Look at Batman: Reign of Terror, where it's set in 18th century France. Robin is Bruce's little sister, Rochelle (the true title-holder of Most Ignored Robin by the Fandom). They're fighting Herve Deinte.
If that isn't the result of two special interests colliding with someone taking a chance to put it in production, then I didn't know what is.
I believe so many of you are capable of turning your fanfic dreams into legit comics. (Maybe not as blatant in certain cases, but there could be hints and casual asides, a post-it in the background, etc.)
Fucking LOVING this energy, yes, thank you, this is a great take on a classic trope!
Jason would be so frustrated. He's kept his secret identity, but at what cost? I can only imagine the ribbing he'd get from his team once they find out, let alone the other Bats.
Now I'm thinking of the next inevitable invasion where all hands are on deck and half the League is wondering why Jason is still dressed as the Red Hood and the other half is wondering if the Bats don't know that that's Jason.
My favorite fic trope is the "JLA meets the batfam because they arrested Jason as he was undercover and now the family is coming to pick him up" one, but imagine. Jason gets arrested by the JLA while undercover, and is brought in for questioning, but before any of the batfam members even notice that he is gone, Green Arrow walks into the interrogation room.
"It's okay, Superman, you can let him go."
"Green Arrow, Red Hood is a wanted criminal on the JLA:s most wanted list-"
"What? No, no he isn't, that's just Jason."
Superman stares. Jason stares too.
"Excuse me?"
"You heard me, that's just Jason, my son-in-law. You can let him go."
"...your son-in-law is the Red Hood?"
"No? Jason's not the Red Hood, he is just dressed as the Red Hood. He's in a mercenary group with my son, he does that. It's pretty easy to dress up as someone who doesn't show their face for a job. Jason's no Red Hood, let me tell you that. Or I guess I don't have to tell you that, since you've already arrested him."
Jason's not really sure if he wants to murder Oliver or not.
Superman stares. Oliver raises a brow.
"So? Can I have him back, please, we have a family dinner today and we're already a bit late."
"...sure."
Jason gets let out. Oliver throws an arm around his shoulders as they walk towards the zeta tubes.
"I hate you, Queen."
"You're welcome, kiddo."
JLA does leave Jason alone after that, though, because every time they see him outside of Gotham, they just go "oh that's just Jason dressed up as the Red Hood again, move on" and Jason doesn't know if he should be annoyed or not. It does make his work easier, but at the same time, it somehow feels like an insult.
Screaming, cackling, joyous!
There's just something enthralling about these two. Especially Tim serving his malicious compliance response to the "Where were you?". It's peak. He loves his family, he doesn't like when they pry into his business, they have all had many conversations about hiding injuries. Now Tim selectively over shares and it's a power trip.
And just. Yes. Tim's laughing hysterically over his boyfriend accidentally shooting him during their kinky sexy times. That is the most true and appropriate response. I kept imagining them on that "Sex Sent Me to the ER" show, retelling this story and breaking down into giggles again.
...Tim is trans masc by default in my head so when Bernard said he'd get him pregnant... I'm just saying, Tim's dealt with a lot of time travel bs. His birth control could fail. He and Steph could have a very funny role reversal, going to the same Lamaze class she took, deciding that the Dead Robins Club is so last year - the Oops Baby Club is now the fun place to be.
I beg you for more Tim and Bernard being chaotic freaks
*Falls down twenty flights of stairs before pushing myself up* This could mean several things, and I will do each one! >:D
Suggestive content below, minors DNI or whatever.
—
Tim, sick, lying in bed: I'm gonna die.
Bernard, sitting next to him, checking his temperature: No, you're not.
Tim: Bet.
Bernard: Please, don't prove me wrong on this one.
Tim: Uuuuuugh...
Bernard: At least you look sexy when you're sick.
Tim: Do I not always look sexy?
Bernard: Oh, you definitely do, always, look sexy. But, I mean like this, your cheeks and thighs all flushed, and all sweaty and helpless and weak in bed...
Tim: Don't get any ideas.
Bernard: To late, I already have several.
Tim: . . . Are you supposed to have sex, when sick?
Bernard: Is that gonna stop us.
Tim: Hmm.. Nope.
—
(inspired by a short story @donkoogrr made for me :3 )
Jason, picking his phone up at two in the morning: Who the fuck is this?
Bernard: Uh, me, so, like, y'know how I asked to borrow a gun for things you did not wanna know about?
Jason: . . . What did you do?
Tim, laughing hysterically in the background:
Bernard: I shot Tim.
Jason: you diD WHAT!?
Bernard: I DIDN'T KNOW THE SAFETY WAS OFF!
Jason: YOU SHOT MY LITTLE BROTHER!? ACCIDENTALLY!?
Tim: IT WAS HOT!
Bernard: He's a bit hysterical?
Jason: Oh my GOD, WHY ARE YOU CALLING ME!?
Bernard: I SHOULDN'T LEGALLY HAVE A GUN AND ALSO THIS WOULD BE SO HARD TO EXPLAIN TO A 911 OPERATOR!
Tim, laughing harder in the background:
Bernard: I have a compression bandage on him..?
Jason: . . . I am on my way, but I swear if he dies from this I'm gonna throw him in a Lazarus pit only to give him an honorable death.
Jason: Oh, also, I'm telling Dick face about this.
Bernard: . . . F#&$.
Tim: Think we can finish up before he gets here and I bleed out?
Bernard, throwing a pillow at him: TIM!
Tim: I've been shot way worse!
—
Ransom girl, flirting with Tim at a gala despite being told several times he has a boyfriend:
Bernard, walking right up to Tim: It's done.
Tim, playing along: It's done?
Bernard: Yup. She's dead.
Tim: Good, good.
Random girl, watching with great confusion and slight fear as Bernard and Tim share a sweet kiss and walk away together:
*The rumors that the Wayne's are some sort of crime family don't get better after this...*
—
Bruce, after calling for an emergency meeting after a massive rogue breakout: I know this is last minute, but— where's Red Robin?
Tim, riding in on his bike:
Jason: Where the f#&$ were you?
Tim, looking around: Are there children present?
Dick: ??? No, Dami is still changing—
Tim: Good, I want you all to know I'm only half coherent, my brain is still fuzzy, and I'm still recovering from being choked out, carved up, humiliated, and defiled in the best ways possible, and I swear one of you better die to make up for what I'm missing out on tonight.
Dick:
Jason:
Bruce:
Tim: None of you wanna see what I look like under this costume right now.
Damian, walking in: Have I missed something? Oh, Timothy, you are here, finally. What took so long?
Tim: Sorry, was hanging out with Bear, y'know how clingy he is.
Damian: Tt, don't forget about your promise to take me to the zoo this weekend.
Tim: Wouldn't dare.
Dick: My baby brother...
—
Stephanie: . . . So, you and Tim are into some freaky stuff?
Bernard: We did not use olive oil, wooden spoon, or the kitchen for their intended purposes last night.
Stephanie: To scared to ask, but also me and Cass have been thinking of experimenting. Any tips?
Bernard: Several.
—
Bernard: You're mad at Bruce again?
Tim: Yeah, but it isn't that big a d—
Bernard, pulling his phone out: Say less.
Bernard, posting anonymously that he'd be getting Red Robin pregnant, one way or another:
Tim: Now what's that gonna do?
Bernard: Give Bruce a heart attack.
Tim: . . . What?
*Cue that night, Bruce begging Babs to tell him what rogue and or magic user is threatening to get his son pregnant and w h y ? ! *
Babs: Harley Quinn says she'd help plan the baby shower, Poison Ivy asked if they're doing a a gender reveal because she has ideas that were safe for the environment, Cat woman commented that she wanted to be the godmother and is currently fighting Spoiler through text for rights..? Nightwing has stated he's castrating anon, and Red Hood told them to watch out for Batman, he's always looking for new Robin's.
Bruce: I am so confused...
—
Tim, gesturing wildly to an entire wall full of case files and "evidence" while being sleep deprived: I'm connecting the pieces.
Bernard: Love dove, the pieces are not connecting.
Tim: They're connecting...
Bernard: What are you trying to solve exactly?
Tim, blinking slowly: I forgot after my eighteenth cup of coffee, but I'm close!
Bernard: Uh huh... Ready for bed?
Tim, whispering as he sticks a sticky note with a poor drawing of a chicken to the wall: Death before dishonor...
—
Tim: . . . Hey, bear?
Bernard, half awake: Mm?
Tim: I want grilled steak.
Bernard: . . . It's three in the morning, Timboo.
Tim: I know...
Bernard:
Tim:
Bernard, groaning as he gets up:
Tim: I love you.
Bernard: I love you more and this is proof.
—
Bernard: Uh... Tim?
Tim, setting down the twelfth cake: You said to pick up a cake.
Bernard: Yes. A cake. You bought twenty cakes!
Tim: I didn't know what flavor you wanted tonight!
Bernard: So you buy all of them?!
Tim: Except carrot cake! Because you don't like carrot cake.
Bernard: We have... So much cake.
Tim: I also bought brownies—
Bernard: Timothy!?
Tim: They're red velvet..?
—
Bernard: I am staring respectfully.
Tim, changing into his Red Robin uniform: You are not.
Bernard, looking him up and down slowly: So respectfully.
—
High school Bernard: I wear sunglasses so nobody knows where I'm looking.
Darla: . . . Bernard—
Tim, not paying attention as Bernard stares at his biceps:
Bernard: Shh...
Darla: This is not heterosexual behavior.
Bernard: No clue what you're talking about. Hey, Tim?
Tim: Yes, Stephanie is a real person.
Bernard: No, no, not about that.
Tim: No, I don't wanna hear the entire lore of Undertale again. And no, I don't care about your d#&$ size, no, you can't know mine either.
Bernard: . . . I'm gonna kick your a#$.
Tim: I welcome you to try, b#&$%.
Bernard, leaning in: I would have you pinned in seconds.
Tim, dropping his phone onto his desk now: Only if I let you.
Bernard: Would you?
Tim: Would I?
Darla: JUST F#&$ ALREADY!
—
YES, PERFECTION!
Because damn I have this headcanon about Bruce's being panromantic ace that I'm going to have to write up someday.
And ofc he would speak up to protect one of his kids from the things he's not willing to protect himself from, that's just his default setting. Tim being caught between laughing at the concern and probably a little touched at the concern is also so cute.
And then you bless me with Jason being a little shit out of left field. 100%, no one knew he was in the house. He breaks in at random, calls it haunting.
Yeah, I'm sorry, I think we're friends now
Hot Take: Bruce doesn't support freakyTimBer not because he doesn't like Bernard. It's because Bruce has to pretend to be the freak in all of his civilian relationships to explain away his scars, so he keeps accidentally making his partners think he's into that and then he's too awkward to correct them, and he's worried that Tim's doing the same thing.
This is genius, I love it!!! My original thought process was Bruce just couldn't fathom his babies ever having sex like?? No?? His kids!? Never U_U
But I absolutely adore this so much. You have no idea.
Pre identity reveal shenanigans (aka, before Bernard tells Tim he knows and also Tim is a goof)
—
Bruce, looking at the bruises and obvious bite makes and cuts along Tim's visible neck and arms: . . . So, where'd the, um, new... bruises come from..?
Tim, not even looking up from his laptop: Bernard. Bruce, I told you this already. Don't question any injury I don't put in my reports.
Bruce:
Bruce: You know, if you ever feel... Pressured into things—
Tim, slowly looking up:
Bruce: I understand keeping our identities secret is important more than any one, you know this, but you shouldn't make sacrifices to this degree to keep it in tact—
Tim, moving a hand over his mouth to stop from either laughing or crying, he isn't sure:
Bruce: It's important to... Enjoy yourself with your relationship safely, and consensually. If you feel like you have to do or comply with certain things for Bernard to keep your identity safe... Why are you laughing?
Tim, trying not to laugh: Bruce, I promise, anything Bernard does to me I give full permission to. Enthusiastically, in fact.
Bruce: . . . What?
Jason, from another room, who read 50 Shades Of Gray once when he was fourteen: YOUR SON IS A FREAK WHO BEGS ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES FOR HIS BOYFRIEND TO CHOKE HIM OUT, YOU IDIOT!
Tim: HOW'D YOU KNOW THAT!?
Jason, popping his head in: WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN YOU ACTUALLY DO THAT!? I DIDN'T KNOW S#&$ BUT NOW I DO WHAT THE F$&%, TIMOTHY!?
Tim: STAY OUT OF MY SEX LIFE!
Jason: I WISH I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD A SEX LIFE!
Tim: I HOPE THE JOKER BLOWS YOU UP AGAIN!
Jason: I HOPE I'M CREMATED THIS TIME!
Bruce:
Bruce: what
—
I don't know how to look up the actual Tumblr thread so here's a Reddit screenshot of a Tumblr post. I am so down to see some cryptid batfam, I love seeing those chaotic worlds
BATFAMDON, I NEED ASSISTANCE
Firstly, I’m calling you the BatFamdom now
Secondly, I’m BOORRREEDD and wanna draw some furrified bat people sooo uhhh send me sum memes, art bases or random shit, either through reblogs or my inbox :3 TY <333
MY SHAYLAAA
✨✨ DANCE DANCE DANCE DANCE DANCE ✨✨
repost…
Girls loving girls
REBLOGS APPRECIATED
had to fix something..
Reblogs REALLY really appreciated! Took me FOREVER to finish this (╥﹏╥)
FInally had time to finish this one (╥︣﹏᷅╥᷅) BUT im sooo proud of it :-3! Based off the one post I made, of course.
Don't mind the fact I was way too lazy to draw Carapax without his mask (≖_≖ )
This has to be one of my favorite pieces this year ᕙ(^▿^-ᕙ)
A fun way the robins could be introduced with a motive to becoming from fighters is if dick just went off to achieve vengeance on his parents killer and the rest of the robins (Steph jason and Carrie) try and find him but have to like do it through talking to like Barbara to get help.
I'm of the belief that the named kids we see in episode eight are going to be the robins and I want so desperately for them to all to be inseparable like you can not seperate those kids.
This is sorta a sequel to my outher DC meets marvel. Bruce is off to a late night meeting and he did not tell his kids where he was going or why.
Ok look crossovers between the batfam and Spiderman where no one knows each other are cool ok but what would be better would be if we take the fact that they've met before in the comics and therefore batman would not want his already caotic kids to meet this dumbass.
So I decided to draw it. Adittionally there are outher marvel character running around I just couldn't fit them into this drawing specifically.
If any one else sees my vision please tell me
Okay ivyhat community
Food dump
Ft. @mmmbeetlejuice ‘s Jervis
If you're still doing requests? May I request 2004 Riddlebat it's my favorite ship version between Batman x Riddler that doesn't get enough love 💖
I mean I’ve got some dumb doodles of them
I feel like we forgot about bro’s science team
They do the walk
Art and stuff from twt for @mmmbeetlejuice part 3
Art and stuff from twt for @mmmbeetlejuice part 2
Is it?
Back with my time witch stuff or whatever but for ba man now
He’s me. He’s daddy. He’s babygirl. He is 12 raccoons in a trenchcoat. He deserves to be treated kindly. He should be taken out back and shot. He is where dreams die and hope is born. He once ate a pie out of a dumpster that was literally on fire.