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Charlie gets her cute little nose from Lilith!
Lilith x Alastor x Lucifer
Most humans buy a Ferrari or go on a vacation when they enter a mid-life crisis.
Lilith is no longer human and very immortal but she doesn't know how else to label her impulsive decision to befriend the recently deceased feral deer tearing though Pride like tissue paper.
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Lilith was tired.
Eternity takes a toll. And after countless years singing like a caged bird and keeping spirits high, she had begun to loose her passion. There was only so long she could look past the hopelessness of her surroundings.
And then the Radio Demon arrived.
He wasn't particularly special all things considered. If she wasn't in such a dire mood, if Lucifer wouldn't stop closing himself off from her, if Charlie wasn't going through puberty and making it everyone's problem-
Well, she probably wouldn't have even noticed him.
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Lilith becomes not quite friends with Alastor and his passion and love for hell reignites her own. Over the decades she finds that she cares for this idiotic sinner more than she ever would have expected.
Her love for Lucifer had been quick and all-consuming. Her love for her daughter had been just as instantaneous. She didn't know how to deal with love that crept up on her like a weed and took decades to bloom.
...Maybe she should take that vacation after all.
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Prequel to Canon with Lilith and Canon to Season 1 for Lucifer.
Somehow these two jaded biblical lovers come to love this crazy sinner at very different points in time. And he somehow manages to help them become closer to each other and re-learn to love the humanity that had initially doomed them. Here's to hoping the consequences of bringing him into the relationship isn't as damning as theirs was.
One thing I saw people like contantly complain about when Vaggie was revealed to be a fallen angel was that it was to predictable.
Which first of all it wasn't people would be essentially virtually fistfighting over this
And second of all to me it signifies good writing why? Because that means that there were building blocks for the theory and in fact we were kinda wrong given one of the main arguments (not the only one but people were using this alot) was her eye and as shown in the show that was from sparring a sinner most exorcists have both eyes. Something I fear is that I feel like this same thing will happen if Alastor does end up on Liliths leash but once again I think thats good writing as it prooves that the evidence is there and that this isnt coming from nowhere with zero proof. It also makes the fandom more alive and I think its better if a fandom is able to get things right as its really gratifying.
anyways I just felt I should mention this cause so many people were pissed and criticizing that when if you’re gonna critizice the show (which is very much allowed and fair there are parts that need working on) do it for something actually important.
cutely reposts
omg this was so rushed and I will definitely be redrawing this piece in the future (inspired by @maricantstandyou 's post go check them out)
part 1 of drawing the shows girl bosses
I know many people have mentioned it but after watching epsiode 5 of hazbin, I do not believe that Lilith that we see in the backstory is Lilith?
I've already had a slight suspicious mostly because of the scenes in epsiode one
How Eve and Charlie's poses mirror each other. Also if we are going off of the og Christian lore, it is interesting to mention that Eve is blamed and casted out for "tricking" Adam as well as she is spawned from his Rib. Meaning she might be just as sadist and as much as a dick as Adam is.
Also the hair? Charlie's is very different from this Lilith compared to
This Lilith??
So does big man get a divorce with Lilith via whatever happened there, and then he marries Eve? Which would explain why she discourages him putting those ideas on Charlie???
That's at least what I thought was hinted with this scene.
Lilith doesn't seem all that happy to share fhe knowledge, she's standing a little farther from Lucifer and honestly seems a little upset. While Lucifer even in the next seen is the only one happy to give Eve the apple, we don't even get to see Liliths reaction,
Like?
All I'm saying is I'm thinking bout something for real so yeah, just a thought.
(Somehow accidentally double posted this)
Hell's Greatest Dad
Hell's Greatest Ship
I am still reeling from the final episode, and I am currently just thinking about Alastor and all his little ticks and phrases that could mean so much more.
So let's get started on some of my favorites!
Obvious spoilers ahead
Alastors fight with Adam. The biggest thing in the episode for Alastor. He seemed to be cocky and treat it as one of his regular murders during the day, not taking him that seriously.
He seemed to have overestimated himself in his abilities against the angelic army leader, and in consequence had his staff broken in half and in his shock at that, left himself wide open for another attack.
Why was he so cocky? He seemed to be so sure of himself against Adam, and so sure he could at least get a few good hits in.
I think this was because he used to something more powerful before his deal with whoever owns his soul now. He just fell back into muscle memory from before he lost most of his strength, thinking he could beat Adam without an angelic weapon, and was surprised that he couldn't hold up to levels of power he could've dealt with before he lost his own.
Like when he was shocked his staff got snapped in half by Adams shockwave. Could it take hits like that before? Has he fought Adam like that before? Is the reason he fell back into muscle memory because he hasn't had this level of threat since his fall/maybe the start of his 7 year absence or because this is how their fights used to go?
He also talked about how powerful a mortal soul could get if it took control of its own fate. This could be a reference to Charlie and the others fighting the extermination, or it could be about himself. If so, what did he choose to get this way? Was this a reference to his deal? Or maybe about his origins to get to where he is now?
Then when he did get hurt in the fight, he looked panicked and fled the scene. He didn't expect to get seriously hurt, at least that quickly from Adam, for whatever reason. Like he didn't expect something like this to happen, or he's just realizing how weak he's gotten since his last major scuffle.
Now, in the radio tower scene. He's seen having a sort of mental breakdown. How he almost died a 'pathetic' death defending the hotel and everyone in it. He seems very distraught at how he almost died.
I did see someone analyze this as Alastors fear of death, and I agree partially with that. Alastor did seem to be caught up in almost dieing to Adam. But I don't think it was because he was about to die in general, but because he would die like that.
We saw how he mocked it in the "Alastor Altruist died for his friends." in his snipbit. I think it was about how he's realizing his situation in full now. What he's been forced into is taking more of an effect than he thought it would at the hotel, as he ranted about a possible back door in the deal that tied him to the hotel and took his power.
This makes me think that Alastors true power has been (hazbin, hehe) taken or suppressed by the deal maker, with them owning his soul, and he's not used to being this weak against slightly stronger opponents, as he definitely has battle experience based on his fighting style with Adam.
Now, for who owns Alastors soul, there are 3 that I've been interested in from different posts on here and actual show hints.
Additionally, his mouth was totally stitched up in his demonic form when making the deal with Charlie. Maybe this was so he is forced to keep his smiling persona up at all times, and maybe to keep him from spilling anything about the deal or where he was for the last 7 years.
Anyways, first off is obviously Lilith. As I have explained in my previous ramble, Lilith probably took Alastor in from a lethal experience, either manipulating or threatening him to join her deal.
I think a plausible reason for this now is to look after Charlie and her hotel. She's currently in heaven, and had a deal with Lute or the angel army about the extermination. She most likely can't leave, which is why she's been gone for the past 7 years with no contact in hell.
She probably chose Alastor because of his reputation and power, but limited it so he couldn't do any lasting damage to the hotel or daughter just in case, since he can theoretically hurt angels.
The second popular option is Eve, or Roo, as everyone's calling her. She was the root of all evil and was a big villain in Vivs' previous work that Hazbin Hotel was based on.
We haven't seen her yet, other than the storybook appearance in the first episode. We don't have much info about her, so I can't really draw any parallels just yet between her and Alastor.
The last one is a bit of a stretch, and I didn't think of this until I saw another post about him: Lucifer
I could see where this would go, to be honest. We see his beef with Lucifer immediately during episode 5, and how Alastor takes any opportunity ro rile him up.
Lucifer could've made a deal with Alastor during his depression funk, causing him to not exactly remember Alastor in good detail with all the other deals he probably made during that time.
Alastor most likely resents him for what his deal did to him if Lucifer was the deal maker, trapping Alastor at the hotel to protect Charlie, and Lucifer just doesn't remember crap from that time and is very confused.
This one is the least likely out of the rest and kind of crack-ish, but was kinda fun to entertain and make a bit of sense on.
These are the theories I have so far on Alastor in Hazbin Hotel from the final episodes. I love this guy's lore, and I am desperate for more about his origins and powers.
I've made bad choices and that was to stay up till 8AM finishing this. Anyway Here are the stand alone images for Lilith and Alastor.